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Old 19th November 2011, 07:51 AM   #1
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Default Who Has Built Their Own Drivers?

I don't see a "better" sub-forum for this, so feel free to tow this thread if it is better-off elsewhere. People build electrostatics in the Exotic forum, but that seems a bit different.

Has anyone messed around with building their own electrodynamic drivers? I will never forget a demo a professor did in freshman Physics II (E&M). He glued a ceramic ring magnet to a plastic coffee can lid, cut a hole in the lid in the ring's center, held a nail coiled with enameled wire in the hole and hooked it up to a cheap FM radio. I didn't care how crappy it sounded...it was just plain cool. Audio wasn't something that I got into until a good 5 years later, and it has been almost 5 more years since then.

I have been thinking about that demo, and it seems like it would be a lot of fun to repeat that simple proof-of-concept. I know that I'd not be making anything I would actually use for listening purposes, but tinkering is too much fun. Now, I know of at least one individual on here that designs and sells their own high quality drivers (he also provides some damn good free plans). How did folks that got into designing their own drivers, GET into designing them? "Lots of experience" seems like a reasonable guess. Does anyone have DIY ED driver projects to post up? I don't care if it is a beautiful driver with a carefully designed, cast aluminum frame, or a coffee can lid with a 'fridge magnet; it would be fun to see pictures of trial & error attempts and funky prototype stuff.

When I get around to it, I'll see about posting up whatever I concoct. Maybe I will even hit it with HOLMImpulse & my ECM8000 for kicks. I think I may accidentally burn off the enamel on the wire before I get that far, though!

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Old 19th November 2011, 09:47 AM   #2
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Has anyone messed around with building their own electrodynamic drivers?
Look for posts by Vikash, specifically one that may have the terms diy dynamic driver in it. I posted a spreadsheet you might find interesting.
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Old 19th November 2011, 10:56 AM   #3
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I am considering doing this myself. I have two cast/milled aluminium 10" basket assemblies with huge magnets from car subwoofers... 2" voice coil gap. I'm thinking it could be fun to try to make them into 3" or 4" diaphragm compression drivers for midbass/mid. There's loads of room inside the basket to put a short horn+phase plug.

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Old 19th November 2011, 04:47 PM   #4
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Cool, found it.
Diy dynamic driver

Hopefully I will eventually do a little better than a plastic lid since I have pretty good access to a lathe & mill. I like the idea of taking a bunch of flat Neodymium magnets & arranging them in a circle. A local electronic surplus place has a huge assortment of Neodymium magnets of all sorts of sizes.
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Who Has Built Their Own Drivers?
Many diyAudio members build their own drivers. Some are the best in the world (look at AE speakers John_E_Janowitz f. example). You can also look at Markaudio,
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/markaudio/

This type of thread tend to be very short unless the OP is actually building something.
anyone into DIY speaker driver building
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/speaker5.htm

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A couple of DIY AMT motors using the AC 30130 diaphragm.

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A couple of DIY AMT motors using the AC 30130 diaphragm.

Oh wow, those are pretty nice.
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Old 20th November 2011, 11:43 AM   #8
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I could teach you to assemble (glue together) a driver in half an hour. The challenge is having all the parts. If we are talking woofer design then having the variety of parts to get to the final parameters you want takes a huge variety of samples (woofer design still includes a lot of trial and error). Plus the parts are only compatible if the voice coil diameter (exact diameter, not nominal) is right for the magnet structure and the cone neck ID. For that reason most companies building samples will include coil winding and machining magnet structure parts (e.g. top plate ID) in the process.

If you are talking about building from scratch, then electrostatic units look like a challenging but doable project.

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Old 20th November 2011, 01:57 PM   #9
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Sounds a bit like the Pioneer HPM (High Polymer Membrane, I think) of some years back. Turning your wall into a speaker seldom sounds good, but my wife got a greeting card that had the inside driven by some sort of element (probably piezo). It actually sounded decent.

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