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Old 5th November 2011, 03:49 AM   #1
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Default Magico Mini on steroids

Design idea:

MTM with

Beyma TPL-150 with wave guide above 1,2khz
Volt 2500.4 or PHL 3020 below 1,2khz
Digmoda DDC 520 plate amp and 2-way digital crossover

Two separate chambers for the midwoofers, each chamber 40l, with port on the back pannel ; 7,5cm diameter x 13cm. Tuned to 40hz.

size of the speakers h=90cm , w= 43cm , d=50cm

total height with stands : 145cm

production cost :

Beyma TPL 150 retail us$ 480,00

Beyma TPL-150 pleated diaphragm tweeter - Beyma TPL-150 - Beyma TPL-150 high frequency tweeter. Beyma TPL-150 high frequency tweeter is available here at US Speaker. Beyma TPL-150 speaker components.

Volt BM2500.4 retail 190 pounds x 1,6 = us$ 300,00 x 2 = us$ 600,00

Volt BM2500.4 10in 200W Mid-Bass Studio Range Chassis

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Digmoda DDC 520 retail us$ 900,00

http://www.madisound.com/store/manua...20-digmoda.pdf


cabinet with stands : ?? ~ us$ 1500,00 ??

shipping and import taxes not included.

total us$ 3500,00 each


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Old 5th November 2011, 04:48 AM   #2
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Tough to sell:

A. an expensive loudspeaker,
B. an active loudspeaker,
c. a loudspeaker that large with so little low freq. extension

The looks are decent, but I'm not fond of the stand. If I were emulating an aesthetic it wouldn't be Magico of old (or new). I prefer something more like this in a stand-mount:

AAD 7001 bookshelf speaker by Phil Jones

Perhaps Anodized black on the front and back panels, and possibly metalic grey paint for the sides, top, and bottom. It's just "cleaner" looking to me.
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Old 5th November 2011, 01:34 PM   #3
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hi scott,

sorry o/t abit. have u auditioned the 7001i?

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Old 5th November 2011, 02:06 PM   #4
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Is the aluminium plate on the AAD only for cosmetics?
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Old 5th November 2011, 02:29 PM   #5
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Imposing, a real presence in a listening room. I think the drivers offer a lot of potential.

If they are to be 145 cm high, I would investigate the use of the volume around the stand to be devoted to low frequency extension. A tuning of 40 hz with an Fs of 32 seems to me to be wasteful...go lower.

One of the aspects of the Magico design is the horizontal, laminar construction. My preference is for vertical grain orientation.

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Imposing, a real presence in a listening room. I think the drivers offer a lot of potential.

If they are to be 145 cm high, I would investigate the use of the volume around the stand to be devoted to low frequency extension. A tuning of 40 hz with an Fs of 32 seems to me to be wasteful...go lower.

One of the aspects of the Magico design is the horizontal, laminar construction. My preference is for vertical grain orientation.

Just sayin'
hi Ed

a backloaded design would improve bass response, and a rectangular cabinet would be much easyer to build :

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Old 5th November 2011, 04:41 PM   #7
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I like it! I would investigate removing the small rear chamber of the TPL and putting it in a larger airtight chamber built into the cabinet. Then stuff it well with some Bonded Logic. You should get an even cleaner sound than we get at the studio on our monitors using the TPL. The stock chamber it a piece of junk and much too small to have room for a decent amount of absorption of the rear wave.

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I like it! I would investigate removing the small rear chamber of the TPL and putting it in a larger airtight chamber built into the cabinet. Then stuff it well with some Bonded Logic. You should get an even cleaner sound than we get at the studio on our monitors using the TPL. The stock chamber it a piece of junk and much too small to have room for a decent amount of absorption of the rear wave.

Greg
hi Greg

some time ago i did take off the rear chamber of my Radian 950pb, to see if i would hear any difference, but honestly, i did not. So i don't know if take off the rear chamber of the Beyma would bring a perceivable difference. But if i realise above design or similar, where the back is encapsulated, i would eventually give a try and see.... who knows.... !
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Old 5th November 2011, 07:09 PM   #9
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Floorstanding transmissionline is indeed nice looking concept. Drivers are good also, i have heard very positive thoughts about lsv-achenbach speakers, your design uses the same drivers but is much better in looks!
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hi scott,

sorry o/t abit. have u auditioned the 7001i?

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I've heard several of Phill's designs, but not this one.
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