"Tired2way" speaker building. - Page 38

Starre · 08:31 PM

Yes that is nice, Zvuchniak. I am in no hurry with the stands since they work good as is, but of course I will do that later.
I listened some tonight and I could just say this: it is better than my Revel!
I sounds more relaxed and with more potent bass over all, although my Revel has a snappier kind of bass sometimes mabye, but it is not as neutral I think (a little boosted before it rolls of maybe, some like that). The Revel are also harder to place in the room since they need more space to the back wall.
The bass is much better now when everything is in place, it is just right, not that trying to impress boosted bass lift that some speakers got, it just sounds potent without taking over. I am glad I had some discussion with Salas regarding this and stick to that 2.5mH coil, it works very good now with the finished cabinet. Middle range: blends perfectly into the sound, I was afraid my small adjustments/ideas would destroy what I had but it has not, a good balance act. The treble: sometimes you don´t think of it at all which is a good thing I believe, and when it got some "sparkle" in the recordings it comes alive. Also the transition between tweeter and woofer is hard to notice as it should be. I give a big thumbs up for this one, Salas and Miklos (I hope that is the right name

) can be very proud of it!
I should also mention I now use my "real" speaker cables (Nordost Red Dawn rev2), I used the internal cabel type for speaker cable earlier, but I have not compared them directly yet.

Starre · 9th January 2012, 08:43 PM

Some pictures from tonight:

Salas · 9th January 2012, 09:35 PM

Not bad, not bad...

Starre · 9th January 2012, 09:58 PM

You are the man Salas,

Salas · 9th January 2012, 10:02 PM

Some day convenient I will photograph and describe a tall black speaker with 4x 6.5inch ported bass cab, with 8 inch dipole hemp 250Hz-10kHz and short ribbon on top octave that I developed for my friend downstairs that plays with an Audio Research VT200. ~91dB/1W. Difficult impedance though.

Starre · 9th January 2012, 10:20 PM

That will be very fun to see, something tells me it will be worth waiting for

.

Salas · 9th January 2012, 10:31 PM

Difficult for rooms, costly enough, they thrive on big amps, hemp bicone is NOS, its woofers Audax non available anymore. Ribbon is current. Just for box & dipole hybrid ideas to show. Yours which is a practical one turned out very nice. Bravo.

Starre · 9th January 2012, 10:43 PM

I am glad you liked my efforts, I really wanted them to be as good as possible without taking too much time to realize. I will be happy with these.
If I would start a new speaker project I was thinking a 3-way trying to design myself, but I know that it is very time consuming and I have to study for the knowledge needed so I will leave that until maybe one day I want to try.

Salas · 9th January 2012, 10:47 PM

If going 3way is better to go big 3way with big amps IMHO. Which means room & costs. If its not for pursuing true scale gains, in small league sometimes two ways can be easier to achieve coherence.

Starre · 9th January 2012, 10:54 PM

Yes, the wise choice for me should be to build a cheap 2-way of my own to start with, just for the sake of learning. I was thinking some very cheap Vifa tweeter and a suiting woofer.
Going to bed, good night Salas.

9th January 2012, 08:17 PM	#371
Starre diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Stockholm	Yes that is nice, Zvuchniak. I am in no hurry with the stands since they work good as is, but of course I will do that later. I listened some tonight and I could just say this: it is better than my Revel! I sounds more relaxed and with more potent bass over all, although my Revel has a snappier kind of bass sometimes mabye, but it is not as neutral I think (a little boosted before it rolls of maybe, some like that). The Revel are also harder to place in the room since they need more space to the back wall. The bass is much better now when everything is in place, it is just right, not that trying to impress boosted bass lift that some speakers got, it just sounds potent without taking over. I am glad I had some discussion with Salas regarding this and stick to that 2.5mH coil, it works very good now with the finished cabinet. Middle range: blends perfectly into the sound, I was afraid my small adjustments/ideas would destroy what I had but it has not, a good balance act. The treble: sometimes you don´t think of it at all which is a good thing I believe, and when it got some "sparkle" in the recordings it comes alive. Also the transition between tweeter and woofer is hard to notice as it should be. I give a big thumbs up for this one, Salas and Miklos (I hope that is the right name ) can be very proud of it! I should also mention I now use my "real" speaker cables (Nordost Red Dawn rev2), I used the internal cabel type for speaker cable earlier, but I have not compared them directly yet. Last edited by Starre; 9th January 2012 at 08:31 PM.

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9th January 2012, 09:35 PM	#373
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	Not bad, not bad...

9th January 2012, 09:58 PM	#374
Starre diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Stockholm	You are the man Salas,

9th January 2012, 10:02 PM	#375
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	Some day convenient I will photograph and describe a tall black speaker with 4x 6.5inch ported bass cab, with 8 inch dipole hemp 250Hz-10kHz and short ribbon on top octave that I developed for my friend downstairs that plays with an Audio Research VT200. ~91dB/1W. Difficult impedance though.

9th January 2012, 10:20 PM	#376
Starre diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Stockholm	That will be very fun to see, something tells me it will be worth waiting for .

9th January 2012, 10:31 PM	#377
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	Difficult for rooms, costly enough, they thrive on big amps, hemp bicone is NOS, its woofers Audax non available anymore. Ribbon is current. Just for box & dipole hybrid ideas to show. Yours which is a practical one turned out very nice. Bravo.

9th January 2012, 10:43 PM	#378
Starre diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Stockholm	I am glad you liked my efforts, I really wanted them to be as good as possible without taking too much time to realize. I will be happy with these. If I would start a new speaker project I was thinking a 3-way trying to design myself, but I know that it is very time consuming and I have to study for the knowledge needed so I will leave that until maybe one day I want to try.

9th January 2012, 10:47 PM	#379
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	If going 3way is better to go big 3way with big amps IMHO. Which means room & costs. If its not for pursuing true scale gains, in small league sometimes two ways can be easier to achieve coherence.

9th January 2012, 10:54 PM	#380
Starre diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Stockholm	Yes, the wise choice for me should be to build a cheap 2-way of my own to start with, just for the sake of learning. I was thinking some very cheap Vifa tweeter and a suiting woofer. Going to bed, good night Salas.