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Finally I have completed the project with an good stand
the Monitor 3 This is a model 2 clone of Foundation What you think to try Glisdome instead of spike ? http://www.audiodesignguide.com/HiEff/Glisdome.jpg http://www.audiodesignguide.com/HiEff/base.jpg |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Winterswijk
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Does it help with a stand to maximize the floor bounce effect?
![]() Isn't this a smarter stand near the floor?
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Winterswijk
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I suspect every one who likes small loudspeakers on a stand do not like to hear sub-bas below 40Hz.
The floor bounce and the reflection on the rear wall will delete all sub-bas, and the satisfied user will say very good clean bass because of the missing sub-bas. Although he bought a speaker that goes down to lets say 40Hz. Then he will think how good bass sounds with the sound of his little monitor in mind he will compare other speakers. I think a stand box with woofer near the floor and mid en tweeter on listener height is better to have also bas. Or in this case put the monitor on a little stand 20cm of the ground with a little 5 degree angle it will also extend the sub-bass level.
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Arkansas
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I suspect that people who like boxes on the floor do not like to hear stereo with a realistic image height.
Unless they like a balcony perspective... |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Winterswijk
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I such a case I think the monitor even lacks good sound stage or you forgot to place it at a angle.
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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Those tweeters are an eyesore.
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Helmuth,
where you have read about this mic position ? |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Winterswijk
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It is clear that the microphone position is to show the effect of different path length caused by floor bounce, one at listening hight with combfilter one at the floor without the combfilter. As shown it causes extra comb-filter effect.
The Floor-Bounce Effect – Mic Placement for Equalization Synergetic Audio Concepts
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: England
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im interested in floor bounce, since in almost every case, a degree will exist. The variables would be distance/frequency of fundamental combing nulls.
Would wall stand mounting help or worsen the situation? Im thinking of designing my next monitor to be wall mounted on a cantilever, with pivot, in each corner.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Winterswijk
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With my dipole low I came to the conclusion that a monopole 1,5 mtr away from the rear wall will kill it own radiation of 1,5 (1/4 lambda) X4= 6mtr 1 lambda. 344/6mtr=<60Hz so frequencies under 60 Hz will decrease by the reflection of the rear wall. As compared to the dipole this reflection stretches the sub bass and helps to increase the subbas level.
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