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Old 2nd September 2011, 07:43 AM   #1
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Default upgrading my boston acoutics for more kick

I have old Boston Acoutic VR20 towers that were given to me long time ago.....

Recently i purchased some new tweeters, damn there so clean and bright! you can hear alot more dialouge, but im going to replace the woofers on both towers....but my question is do i need to rework my crossover for these to sound even better? they will be my surrounds though!for my home theater...

the tweeter i have now:
-Heavy Duty Titanium Super Tweeter TW44
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• Power handling: 150 watts RMS/300 watts peak power (with included crossover capacitor) • VCdia: 1" • Impedance: 4~8 ohms • Re: 3.5 ohms • Frequency response: 2,000-20,000 Hz • SPL: 104 dB 1W/1m • Magnet weight: 30 oz. • Dimensions: face: 3-1/8" square, depth: 2-1/8".
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Diecast aluminum housing
Ferrofluid cooled
Kapton voice coil
Includes crossover capacitor

But the woofers i was looking at are:
Usher 8836A 7" Kevlar Woofer w/Truncated Frame
Overview
The yellow Kevlar cone with black dustcap gives this driver a very modern and attractive look. The Kevlar cone material offers excellent midrange and midbass clarity, while still maintaining great dynamics.
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Yellow Kevlar cone and rubber surround for an attractive modern looking woofer
Truncated cast frame for close driver spacing on speaker baffles
Low-distortion motor structure for enhanced clarity and great dynamics


any help would be nice thanks
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....damn there so clean and bright! ....
Hi,

Yes, and probably totally wrong. That driver has a large 5K peak that
allthough improving intelligibility, its not exactly hi-fi. Sensitivity is
also way too high, they'd need L-padding down to suit.

The Usher bass driver you are considering has a smooth rising response,
and is a good choice to use with an original fairly standard crossover.
Though i'd never consider "upgrading" properly working bass/mids.

rgds, sreten.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. I understand the VR20 had pretty good tweeters ...
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1 tweeter poped, and woofer was messed up!actual took them from my brother that i lent him....so wanted to upgrade the whole thing....im new to all this though!what i L-padding?
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I was going to suggest a search but having done one myself It didn't return anything useful. an l-pad is an attenuation network which will reduce the level of a driver.

Here is a calculator L-Pad (Driver Attenuation Circuit) Designer / Calculator also click on the help link below the calculator for a bit more theory.

I'd also suggest reading this tutorial to get some grounding Introduction to designing crossovers without measurement

Personally I advocate making measurements but the above is an excellent tutorial for those who don't want to or haven't got the facilities to go down the measurement path.

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1 tweeter poped, and woofer was messed up! actual took them from
my brother that i lent him....so wanted to upgrade the whole thing....
im new to all this though!what i L-padding?
Hi,

The simple facts of the matter are "upgrading" decent knackered speakers
with different drivers does not work very well, and for the cost you would
be far better off with a used pair of fully working quality speakers.

Its very difficult to upgrade a speaker unless you know what you are
doing. Your tweeter choice simply doesn't belong in a hifi system IMO.

I'm all for DIY, when it works, is cost effective, and makes the builder happy.

rgds, sreten.

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