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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Georgia USA
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I have seen a few speakers intentionally designed with the tweeter placed below the mid/woofer. A while back I took small speakers I used to use for near field, and placed tweeters on the bottom. Originally I wanted to get the port breeze out of my face. Then I noticed what seemed to be a more cohesive sounding reproduction. The speaker was designed to have the tweeter on top.
Why is that?
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have a look at this series of directionality plots from John's site, and imagine them flippped upside down:
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Quote:
From the book: Quote:
Now after all I read? I found nothing to explain what might be gained with having the tweeter located below the woofer. That was my question.
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I have done it, it works or it did for me, but I did it as a cost effective way of building, as it was easy to get the tweeter at ear level in a 1220 sheet of MDF. XO was electrical LR 2 and I must have got the acoustic response to match that as it wasn't at all bad.
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Location: Newcastle, Australia
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Usually inverted driver arrangement is used with using odd order filters to compensate for the downward polar tilt caused by phase differences between the HP and LP. Reverse the drivers and if they are placed to give the right upward tilt can give a 0° ZDP (zero delay plane).
There's a good section on this in the Loudspeaker Design Cookbook (6th ed, section 7.23). |
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You may still be closer to a reflecting surface that way, or depending on your ear height relative to the tweeter could have changed if you're in near field also.
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Flipping a pair of loudspeakers around will completely change the phase relationship between the two drive units and your ear and depending on the design could result in a significant change between the frequency response of each arrangement. It is not surprising that they sound different. As to which way is best will only really depend on one thing - which way you think sounds best.
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GeneZ, have another look at those graphs. What they are showing you is how the sound radiates into the room, looking at the speaker from the side. If flipping the speaker makes a difference, you have odd-order crossovers, and the directionality change, combined with your listening position, works better for you.
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