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Old 6th September 2011, 03:10 PM   #281
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Here's some data for the equalized "double cone":

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The problem with this device and/or driver is lots of resonances:

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Not sure if this is worth pursuing.
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Old 6th September 2011, 03:30 PM   #282
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Have you done some distortion measurements as well, comparing the speaker with and without deflector? I did a quick test some pages ago that pointed into that direction, but it would be nice to have a second measurement from a different setup.

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Old 6th September 2011, 10:52 PM   #283
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Here's some data for the equalized "double cone":

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.

The problem with this device and/or driver is lots of resonances:

Click the image to open in full size.

Not sure if this is worth pursuing.


It's remarkable for a single full-range driver, but I don't think it's ever going to be "it".

On the other hand I think some of the effort of the design could well be beneficial.

For instance the overall uniformity of pressure loss off-axis from 1-4 kHz is pretty good, not excellent (that 1.8 kHz artifact needs some work), but still pretty good when you consider that this range posses difficulties with larger drivers.

Below 1 kHz (and particularly below 700 Hz) you can improve the uniformity with a leaky vent on the same baffle as the driver but at its "rear" (considering it's a radial design). This will of course limit it's usefulness as freq.s decrease.

Above 4 kHz - well, that's always going to be a problem (at least with regard to a uniform drop in pressure off-axis, and overall linearity). I think you'll have to transition to another driver(s) to get something more uniform. (..even then though, the response is still pretty good on an absolute-level to more than 10kHz.)



I wonder what it looks like when you eq. it on the dominate axis you listen to?
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Old 7th September 2011, 08:23 AM   #284
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I let a DCX2496 do the heavy lifting (878Hz, -9.6dB, Q1.8; 1.88kHz, 11.2dB, Q2.83; 2.44, -10.5dB, Q7.9) and then run it through Audyssey MultEQ which does a pretty good job at speaker correction. After that, the speaker sounds pretty good.

A smaller fullrange driver would probably help with the 1.9kHz region but then we're talking about a two-way design which brings in additional complexity.
There are also traditional two-ways that are even more omni: audio blog: Review of Polar graphs
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Old 9th October 2011, 03:23 PM   #285
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Here are some omni insights hot off the press. Enjoy the lengthy text with your favorite beverage.

http://www.2pi-online.de/html/interim_conclusions1.htm

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