Morel's Fat Lady speakers..what do you think of them

Bill poster · 29th July 2011, 12:20 AM

Morel Loudspeakers - Home Audio - Fatlady Project

$32,000

Inductor · 29th July 2011, 12:43 AM

Good drivers (manufacturer). I just hate the name (not the price). Are you going to make them?! Is not the perfect sound, some say...

vacuphile · 12:47 AM

It looks expensive to make and the market for items like this is not very large, so I think the price is fair in that respect.

Now, what I generally miss in this market segment is a willingness to show objective information. If you invest this kind of money, it would be nice to have anachoic measurements, an impedance graph and some distortion figures. I hope they will be in Audiophile one of these days, and I am looking forward to how they do on the test bench.

emile2 · 29th July 2011, 02:19 AM

The following was taken from their website and just absolutly scares me.

"Unlike conventional loudspeakers it has absolutely no internal damping: the inside of the cabinet is empty. The cabinet is allowed to vibrate in a controlled manner along with the drive units and uses this energy as part of the reproduced sound.

The clever part is that the cabinet 'sings' with the drive unit but stops immediately when the drive unit stops so there are no delayed resonances. The result is a speaker that sounds as if it has no cabinet at all."

Helmuth · 29th July 2011, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emile2

The following was taken from their website and just absolutly scares me.

"Unlike conventional loudspeakers it has absolutely no internal damping: the inside of the cabinet is empty. The cabinet is allowed to vibrate in a controlled manner along with the drive units and uses this energy as part of the reproduced sound.

The clever part is that the cabinet 'sings' with the drive unit but stops immediately when the drive unit stops so there are no delayed resonances. The result is a speaker that sounds as if it has no cabinet at all."

Every one is making extensive heavy enclosures it feels good to the builder but is for a large part nonsense.
Heavy material stores more energy. And light is faster stopped because it stores less energy. And reinforcements are more effective to make it tight.

So the morel enclosure will vibrate a little with the sound and that will be masked by the radiated sound pressure. So you can not detect a thing.

Henry8 · 29th July 2011, 10:46 AM

Looks like a sex toy.

Pure marketing excercise.

Quote"The clever part is that the cabinet 'sings' with the drive unit but stops immediately when the drive unit stops so there are no delayed resonances. The result is a speaker that sounds as if it has no cabinet at all." As linkwitz said: are you making a musical instrument or a transducer?

My personal experiance of morel - mdt32 tweeters - had a lovely 4dB high Q peak at 10KHz - no mod could get rid of it.

Helmuth · 29th July 2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry8

My personal experiance of morel - mdt32 tweeters - had a lovely 4dB high Q peak at 10KHz - no mod could get rid of it.

That seems nonsense to me that can be flattened out with a LC or RLC or RC combination.
As for I can see there is no peak as you stated in the morel spec.

Bill poster · 29th July 2011, 11:19 AM

This bit is hilarious.

"an outer layer of lacquered carbon fiber is optimally mixed with fiber glass and epoxy resin."

ie. its made of fiberglass and an outer skin of carbon fiber for looks. 32 grand..

Luke · 29th July 2011, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry8

Looks like a sex toy.

Or ET from behind, either way its damn ugly

dabbler · 29th July 2011, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth

Every one is making extensive heavy enclosures it feels good to the builder but is for a large part nonsense.
Heavy material stores more energy. And light is faster stopped because it stores less energy. And reinforcements are more effective to make it tight.

So the morel enclosure will vibrate a little with the sound and that will be masked by the radiated sound pressure. So you can not detect a thing.

+1

29th July 2011, 12:20 AM	#1
Bill poster diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London/Bangkok	Morel's Fat Lady speakers..what do you think of them Morel Loudspeakers - Home Audio - Fatlady Project $32,000

29th July 2011, 12:43 AM	#2
Inductor diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cascais	Good drivers (manufacturer). I just hate the name (not the price). Are you going to make them?! Is not the perfect sound, some say... __________________ NEXT-proaudio Portugal William Ralston Music Listening Library

29th July 2011, 12:44 AM	#3
vacuphile diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Right behind you.	It looks expensive to make and the market for items like this is not very large, so I think the price is fair in that respect. Now, what I generally miss in this market segment is a willingness to show objective information. If you invest this kind of money, it would be nice to have anachoic measurements, an impedance graph and some distortion figures. I hope they will be in Audiophile one of these days, and I am looking forward to how they do on the test bench. __________________ Second law is your friend. Last edited by vacuphile; 29th July 2011 at 12:47 AM.

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29th July 2011, 02:19 AM	#4
emile2 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: North East	The following was taken from their website and just absolutly scares me. "Unlike conventional loudspeakers it has absolutely no internal damping: the inside of the cabinet is empty. The cabinet is allowed to vibrate in a controlled manner along with the drive units and uses this energy as part of the reproduced sound. The clever part is that the cabinet 'sings' with the drive unit but stops immediately when the drive unit stops so there are no delayed resonances. The result is a speaker that sounds as if it has no cabinet at all."

29th July 2011, 10:46 AM	#6
Henry8 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Looks like a sex toy. Pure marketing excercise. Quote"The clever part is that the cabinet 'sings' with the drive unit but stops immediately when the drive unit stops so there are no delayed resonances. The result is a speaker that sounds as if it has no cabinet at all." As linkwitz said: are you making a musical instrument or a transducer? My personal experiance of morel - mdt32 tweeters - had a lovely 4dB high Q peak at 10KHz - no mod could get rid of it.

29th July 2011, 11:19 AM	#8
Bill poster diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London/Bangkok	This bit is hilarious. "an outer layer of lacquered carbon fiber is optimally mixed with fiber glass and epoxy resin." ie. its made of fiberglass and an outer skin of carbon fiber for looks. 32 grand..

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