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Old 30th July 2011, 03:44 PM   #21
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I was not trying to imply in my earlier post that a heavier encloser was better than a light one or vice versa, just that the markiting guy that wrote that paragraph for Morel had all to do with selling a product and not much to do with accurat reproduction of music. We all know the best cabinet is the one that makes no noise (I don't want to hear the Fat Lady sing). And comparing a loudspeaker to a race car is absolute nonsence. Why would the weight of a race car have anything to do with reproducing music?

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Old 30th July 2011, 06:03 PM   #22
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@Bill: Are they implying that? Could be, I suppose, but it also seems to be suggesting that the cabinet is ringing as the music plays. If it does it can't simply stop doing that instantly. Really it's a question of high Q versus low Q resonances and damping versus no/ minimal damping. Terms like 'energy storage' are often used as if energy is either stored or isn't- I'm not suggesting you are doing this- but it's really a question of how much energy for how long at at what range of frequencies. Obviously you don't want the cabinet droning away as low Q resonances are excited across a wide range of frequencies, but OTOH you don't want a bunch of high Q ringing either.
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Old 30th July 2011, 06:15 PM   #23
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The tweeters do seem pretty decent. Their woofers, OTOH, are a train wreck. Poor unit-unit consistency and poor overall performance even if by luck one gets a pair that are properly sorted.

Even my Morel SoundSub9, a small "designer" sub I bought to serve as a high-mounted sub in a Geddes-style multisub setup because I liked its physical appearance, shipped to me with a half-unglued surround...

Also, the Klippel measurements of their flagship 7 in Voice Coil were not pretty.
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Old 30th July 2011, 11:27 PM   #24
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@Bill: Are they implying that? Could be, I suppose, but it also seems to be suggesting that the cabinet is ringing as the music plays.
Yeah you are right. And I don't think they can make the first statement and then this, its a contradiction. Having said this, there is a favorable review online so who knows?
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Old 31st July 2011, 12:12 AM   #25
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It might sound excellent Bill- and so it should at the price. Perhaps they just need to get a new copywriter and ditch the silly marketing jargon?
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Old 31st July 2011, 07:44 AM   #26
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even if it sounds good, who wants it in their home? That's enough money to keep both me and the wife happy.
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Old 31st July 2011, 08:21 AM   #27
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There are a few quality manufacturers who also aim for light, thin enclosures, with the idea that these don't store energy:
- The (often copied by DIYers) Rondo 23 which was well received in the press.
- I believe that Audio Note speakers use the same philosophy.
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Old 1st August 2011, 03:05 PM   #28
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I believe that Audio Note speakers use the same philosophy.
don't get me started on Audio $$$$ Notes
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Old 1st August 2011, 03:58 PM   #29
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Thanks to Bill's post had a look at some of the Audio Note speakers. Frankly, I don't think this segment of the market does make much sense, unless you NEED speakers finished in high gloss Brittish racing green. Or want to brag to your girl friends that there is more silver in you speakers than in their jewel chests. Seriously, pound for pound, copper is a much better conducer than silver (about 10% better). And pure silver is mechanically much worse than pure copper. Why would anybody want to make voice coils out of silver? There is more baloney in high end audio than there is in the whole of Bologna.

Why don't they show measurements, except useless stuff like 25-20000 +/- 6dB. Same problem I have with the Fat Ladies (although I do understand the reluctance of some fat ladies to subject themselves to measurement, these Morels were created to look the way they do).
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Old 20th August 2011, 02:39 PM   #30
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Well as it has been said; "It's not over until the FAT LADY sings" Evidently this Fat Lady is designed to sing all the time.
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