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Old 4th July 2011, 11:08 PM   #1
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Is it worth to spend the money for dual mids and designing an MTM set up ?


I am using a Marchand Tube X over and thinking of running an MTM design.

Speakers will be a 3 way active

I am thinking ATC Dome mids that is

What are the benefits and is it worth the $$$$ to go with four mids ?

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Old 4th July 2011, 11:19 PM   #2
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Hi,

MTM mids with the ATC dome midrange is the dumbest idea I've heard in a long time
(And very expensive ...)

MTM only makes sense for 2 ways, not 3 ways, for 3 ways perhaps its BMTB that works.
(Smooths floor bounce issues in the bass, dual midranges are nearly always pointless.)
but many would still do a 3 way as BBMT.

Quite frankly the MTX IMO is a recipe for doing things incorrectly, and its hard to do right.

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Old 4th July 2011, 11:29 PM   #3
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So why so many companies do it

ProAc did it

Rockport does it

JM LAB

they are all 3 and 4 ways ????
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There are reasons for an MTM (unfortunately fashion is one of them), but in almost every situation XO is too high. Much more flexibility if you just use one mid.

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I would venture a guess that the only real reason you would consider two mids is power handling.
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Old 5th July 2011, 12:22 AM   #6
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I am sure looks have to do with it YES

but the response seems to be the improved issue too.

Xover is no issue as I am using an electronic so just a matter of swapping cards

BUT is the $$$$$ worth the difference ?? OR is it most looks and little performance ?
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Hi,

Yes power handling might be the only reason, but that indicates poor c/o points.

Changing the mid c/o point by half an octave negates the need for two of them.

The only sensible reason for having MTM midranges is sensitivity issues.

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There is no advantages in terms of the response ??
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Xover is no issue as I am using an electronic so just a matter of swapping cards
Active XO is not a fix it all. Ideally ou want to get the drivers centre-to-centre within a 1/4 wavelength at the XO. Mid-to-tweet in an MT, Mid-to-mid in an MTM. This last means that, with say 6.5" bass drivers & allowance for a 3.5" bezel on the T, that an XO <400 Hz is required.

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There is no advantages in terms of the response ??
Some posit an advantage due to vertically symmetric lobing.

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