Eton 7-360 Hex and my potentially terrible idea.

[DrDyna]

I've had a couple of these Eton 7-360 Hex drivers for a while. I was doing some reading online while I was trying to come up with a proper cabinet.

I've got them in a 2 way with a Seas 25TAF/G.

Now, here's the part where I think I might be losing my mind.

From the looks of the response of the Eton (unfortunately, I don't have any proper measuring equipment) it rolls itself off pretty sharply starting around 4500hz or so and I thought to myself...I wonder what the drawbacks would be to running the midbass unit naked and crossoverless and using a simple 6db slope on the tweeter in various places until it sounded like it was mating up properly, essentially ending up with a crossover that consisted of 1 capacitor.

Has anyone ever done anything like this with one of these woofers?

[DrDyna]

Scratch that, 2 parts. Had to put a resistor on the tweeter, it's a little happier than the woofer is. 4.7uF and 2ohms (so far).

[jerome69]

I have the FRD/ZMA file of the Eton 360 but it seems to be in a box.
For the 25TAF H0398, a little old this tweeter, but the K27G, soft dome should work in the simulation ?

You have an horrible peak near 4500Hz with the eton, you need a notch to suppress it.

File attached. You can use speaker workshop or pcd.

Have fun !

[DrDyna]

Originally Posted by jerome69

I have the FRD/ZMA file of the Eton 360 but it seems to be in a box.
For the 25TAF H0398, a little old this tweeter, but the K27G, soft dome should work in the simulation ?

You have an horrible peak near 4500Hz with the eton, you need a notch to suppress it.

File attached. You can use speaker workshop or pcd.

Have fun !

Thank you sir

It actually sounds surprisingly good right now, I've been listening to it for about an hour. I can tell that there are a couple of peaks, so I might play with it, but i like the idea of "lol, what crossover?"

[jerome69]

What crossover ?

I played with the data, you can do a crossover very closed to the latest HiVi-ViFa.

[DrDyna]

Originally Posted by jerome69

What crossover ?

I played with the data, you can do a crossover very closed to the latest HiVi-ViFa.

Which I still haven't ordered the parts for yet It's on my shopping list next time I've got some spare cash though

[DrDyna]

One thing is for certain, I like this midbass unit a lot more than the HiVi m6a in my other set. You say the crossover would be very close to the one you helped me with for the HiVi/Vifa, would it change much if I were to use these midbass units instead of the HiVi?

Could I just leave out your notch filter and be fine?

[DrDyna]

Originally Posted by jerome69

File attached. You can use speaker workshop or pcd.

Have fun !

For some reason when I try to open that FRD it doesn't do anything, I still have just one straight line for frequency response

Edit: It's working in Speaker Workshop, gonna try to figure this out.

[jerome69]

You mean open with pcd ? The first line of the file is a header, you should remove it. About the data, don't forget to add for the woofer, the acoustic center (I use -4cm).

The peak is 4.5kHz, the notch is different 0.47mH 2.2uF R~5ohms.
See the schema. I calculate very fast. You can do other slopes it's up to you

[DrDyna]

Originally Posted by jerome69

You mean open with pcd ? The first line of the file is a header, you should remove it. About the data, don't forget to add for the woofer, the acoustic center (I use -4cm).

The peak is 4.5kHz, the notch is different 0.47mH 2.2uF R~5ohms.
See the schema. I calculate very fast. You can do other slopes it's up to you

It's going to take me a while to get used to Speaker Workshop. For some reason, PCD won't load the frd or zma files. I tried removing the first line also. It's probably office 2010, I need to install an old one on another computer.