Woofer choices Audio Technology vs Focal Audiom

[domtweaker]

Has anyone ever compared the bass quality of Audio Technology woofers compared to Focal Audiom ?

If anyone has good input pls let me know.

I have never used either and would like to get some ideas.

Mainly regarding 10 " - 13" sizes .

thank you

 

[jerome69]

They are all good drivers at a price.

10C77

You should be more precise because I don't if you think about only bass or bass-midrange.
It depend on the midrange. If you use a focal mid, it's better to use a focal bass, AT bass-->AT mid...

 

[David Gatti]

Have a good look at the Morel Ultimo. I'm loving mine.

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[chlorofille]

That's a great driver. Eton Hex 12'' is another good one. As Jerome said, it is better to use the same family of drivers for the midrange and woofer.

What midrange and tweeter are you using?

 

[domtweaker]

Thank you guys .

Well the mid I want to use is an ATC Dome .

From around 500 HZ so Looking for the 20- 500

Sonic diff . between Focals and AT Drivers , Speed ,

Tweeter will be the Esotar 330


Thank you

 

[jerome69]

Without any hesitation, the Audiotechnology. I think distortion could be a key difference. You can also make a crossover with very low slope

 

[domtweaker]

Audio T really .

Even though the Audiom has all these multiple magnets and super light cone it would be more distortion than Audio T driver ?

Do those Poly cones sound as good as the focals or some other paper cones like Volt per say ?

cheers

 

[domtweaker]

I also like the fact that the Audiom is very efficient .


when you start using the Audio T drivers with teh 102 mm voice coils they are not as efficient .

Prices are pretty much the same for both drivers .

 

[jerome69]

First, i think distortion according the motor, for the Audiotech. Not the cone. The AT can go higher. But I compare the AT 10" to the focal 13".

Second I think the marriage with the ATC dome will be better. The ATC sound family is not closed to Focal sound.

Third is the crossover, you can go to 6 or 12dB slope.

I think it's better, the fourth reason, to use a 10", the AT, "better speed"

The Focal audiom is very good looking.

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Note if I compare 12" to 13" . The AT have a motor with less inductance, can go higher easily with less distortion. The Audiom is built for bass ?
Flexunits 12 B 77 25 10
http://www.zalytron.com/specs/Audiom13WX.pdf


Hope this can helps.

 

[stickinsect]

My speakers have the 15 inch Audioms (Onken cabinet)crossing over to Audiom 7K2 midrangers a good combo if you can find them.

 

[domtweaker]

I have tried the Focal mids and prefer the ATC mids much better .

I guess its personal too.

seems like much more inner detail from the Giant Domes !

 

[mclsound]

I use a dual,,, modified(4" VC) 12"-AT(they actually measure to 13.25" ring dia) with a 12" Volt 3143 midbass(for now) and dual ATC mids.
AT work well with ATC

 

[domtweaker]

That sounds like a nice set up

what tweeter are you using ?

 

[tiefbassuebertr]

Has anyone ever compared the bass quality of Audio Technology woofers compared to Focal Audiom ?

If anyone has good input pls let me know.

I have never used either and would like to get some ideas.

Mainly regarding 10 " - 13" sizes .

thank you

Several years ago I have compare this follow drivers:
1) Audio Technology similar to this:
Flexunits 15 E 102 25 10
Open Air Loudspeaker - Audiotechnology
2) Focal Audiom 15ax - go to post #1 under
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/subw...ke-focal-audiom-15ax-currently-available.html
The most different was the clean and tight bass at low levels by using the mentioned Focal Audiom due its low value of Rms and high value of Qms.
Actually the bass transmission was better in all respects by moderate SPL levels, because the absence of rubber suspension with high mechanical losses.
Only at very high SPL levels the Audio Technology transducer provides more pressure and more punch
For me the result is clear: For classic and jazz I would prefer the mentioned Focal Audiom and for pop/rock, techno and Rap music I would prefer the Audio Technology, because the stiffness of it's cone is higher as by the Audiom 15ax.
The comparable test was performed (long time ago) at the enclosure showed under
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/mult...-liters-equipped-2-pcs-focal-audiom-15ax.html

 

[Lojzek]

Speculation between high and low Qms is not worth much thinking about.
One has kapton and the other probably aluminum former which makes the
difference of Qms.

Important is it does not affect much total Q. I'd rather take AT's higher Xmax
over the one of Focal.