|
|
|||||||
| Home | Forums | Rules | Articles | Store | Gallery | Blogs | Register | Donations | FAQ | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read | Search |
| Multi-Way Conventional loudspeakers with crossovers |
|
Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.
Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#1 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
|
A year or so ago I built a pair of John "Zaph" Krutke's BAMTM (Bargain Aluminium MTM) speakers and have been very happy with the sound. I recently completed a full passive transformer output mod on my Behringer DCX2496and would like to try using this as an active crossover for the BAMTM.
The original passive crossover for the BAMTM is detailed on Zaph's page: Zaph|Audio - Bargain Aluminum MTM My understanding is that the crossover is 2nd order at 1450Hz with some tweeter padding. With the natural rolloff of the drivers, the resulting slopes approximate to LR4. I'd appreciate some guidance on how to set up the DCX. I have the option of Butterworth, Bessel or LR 2nd order slopes - which would be most appropriate for the BAMTM? My plan is to apply the correct slopes at 1450Hz then attenuate the tweeter outputs as required to flatten the response. I have a pair of 200uF film caps that I may use to protect the tweeters - will check amplifier turn-on thump and apply if required. Any advice would be gratefully received. |
|
|
|
|
#2 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
|
To mimic the passive filters of the BATMT is unfortunately not as easy as you might think. What has to be done is making an exact replica of the so called transfer functions of the passive crossover legs.
You have to know these first. This can be done by plugging the component values of the passive filter legs into a simulation program. The hard part is getting the DCX to "do" exactly the same transfer functions. I have not used the DCX, but it is my understanding that the Beringer software cannot copy transfer functions, that are not in the software library. Maybe I am wrong here. With Soundeasy or LspCad 6.1 it is somewhat easier done: measure the output of woofer and tweeter separately, when fed through the passive filter. Subsequentely use these measurements as "target functions" in SE or LspCad . After optimization the program will have calculated the correct filter coefficients for active emulation on the DCX. Feed these into the Beringer. Simply flatting the SPL curve by manipulating the DCX will not do the job: you will end up with a different speaker system, and not an active copy of the original. Good Luck, Eelco de Bode |
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
|
__________________
There is nothing so practical as a really good theory - Ludwig Boltzmann When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail - Abraham Maslow |
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
|
Many thanks both - extremely helpful advice. Will finish the required four channel amp (this weekend?) then test and report back.
Thanks again. |
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
|
Hi, FWIW you will need far less power for the treble amplifiers than mid/bass, rgds, sreten.
__________________
There is nothing so practical as a really good theory - Ludwig Boltzmann When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail - Abraham Maslow |
|
|
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
|
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Alterations to BAMTM crossover? | lowpsiTSi | Multi-Way | 6 | 19th January 2011 12:47 AM |
| Zaphaudio SR71 confusion. help with crossover! | DefiantGSR | Multi-Way | 2 | 25th December 2007 08:43 PM |
| Powered Zaphaudio style HiVi B3N speaker using a Chipamp w/ active filters | DaMeat | Full Range | 1 | 14th April 2006 05:34 AM |
| zaphaudio hivi b3s crossover question... | jaygeorge1979 | Multi-Way | 23 | 26th January 2006 08:39 AM |
| XVR1 active crossover, discrete active stage | promitheus | Pass Labs | 18 | 22nd July 2002 01:29 AM |
| New To Site? | Need Help? |
| Page generated in 0.08808 seconds (78.93% PHP - 21.07% MySQL) with 10 queries |