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Old 10th June 2011, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default Strange partial driver failure? loss of bass in one speaker

I have a 3 way system using hds 810921, 830884, and sb34nrx75-6

I was listening to my speakers yesterday and I noticed one had quite a bit more low bass than the other. They have been fine for years.

I switched out everything I could - all cables, amp channels, ect, and narrowed it down to the drivers. Even switched the crossovers between boxes. I examined the drivers and did AC ohm measurements and everything seems to be in tact. Voice coils are shiny and uniform... no cracks or leaks...

When I played the subs by themselves the difference was huge - one was about 10db quieter and sounded like it had a strong rolloff at about 80. I though OK sub went bad - not sure why

Then I noticed one midwoofer plays lower than the other as well! How is this possible?

What sort of failure can lead to loss of low bass across a whole speaker, but leave the 100hz+ frequencies in tact? This also sucks because my midwoofer is no longer available! I don't suppose there is a way to fix this?
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Old 10th June 2011, 05:37 PM   #2
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did you try flipping L/R on sources / preamp too?
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Old 10th June 2011, 05:38 PM   #3
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before doing anythng else mesure impedance curve for the drivers.
that will tell more.
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Old 10th June 2011, 06:15 PM   #4
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Sometimes a layer of a voice coil can heat up, slough off and lodge in the gap, the speaker will play but have lack of bass.
A pinched coil due to a shifted magnet will have the same result.
In either case, pushing on the cone will have drag, usually a scraping sound.

You say "voice coils are shiny and uniform", that is interesting, I have not seen any speaker that the entire voice coil was visible without cutting the speaker open.
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Old 10th June 2011, 06:23 PM   #5
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I have not seen any speaker that the entire voice coil was visible without cutting the speaker open.
Unless the motor is removable, I had a pair of old Tannoy dual concentric ages ago that you could unbolt.

Highly unlikely nowadays though.
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Old 10th June 2011, 06:25 PM   #6
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Did you guys notice that he said two drivers in one box are doing this?
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Did you guys notice that he said two drivers in one box are doing this?
Yeah, that's why my first thought was that it could be a source, but if he's moved the speakers from one side to the other and the problem follows the speaker, some measurements are probably going to have to be done to figure out what the culprit is.
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Is that speaker near a source of heat that might have hardened up the suspensions somehow? Definitely do a mechanical test of cone movement to see of you can feel extra stiffness in those drivers. Can you pull the drivers put them on the bench and run a frequency generator through them to compare between units?
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Did you guys notice that he said two drivers in one box are doing this?
Yup, there are a lot of crazy mixes that put way to much energy in one side only now days..
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I have a feeling that's not it. No problem with the tweeter.
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