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Old 7th August 2011, 04:26 AM   #501
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just in general, to all who think they know all about omnis
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Old 7th August 2011, 05:17 AM   #502
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The only omnis which are vaguely known outside hifi freaksville are Beolabs but they start at 5 grand. It would be good if someone produced something budget. I just about remember that Canon omni which kind of worked, using a single paper cone so it was wanting in the treble.
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I just made these. Do they qualify as omni?
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Old 7th August 2011, 07:37 AM   #503
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just in general, to all who think they know all about omnis
Haven't seen anyone claim that yet. Only you claim to have made one that works. Your posts seem to get well off the point as of late and full of ambiguity. I'd ask you to just be direct and state your point whatever "it" is. If you don't want to say anything, well then don't.

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Example of what psychoacoustics is about, its methods and also a good basic paper: http://symphony.arch.rpi.edu/~braasj...raasch2005.pdf
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these are NOT omni enough to be called omnis even from pragmatic, non-idealistic perspective
such speakers are legitimately called polydirectional (by Dick Shahinian, maker of similar speakers)
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Old 7th August 2011, 12:22 PM   #506
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I just made these. Do they qualify as omni?
absolutely obviously they DON'T
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Old 7th August 2011, 12:28 PM   #507
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Haven't seen anyone claim that yet. Only you claim to have made one that works.
not really, it is also my claim, and of el`Ol, and OllBoll to name just few

as to the first claim - it is claimed all along in this thread that "it cannot work, it cannot work, it cannot work" ad nauseam

it looks a lot like a claim that "we know everything about it and therefore we can say it cannot work", doesn't it?
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Old 7th August 2011, 08:23 PM   #509
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Graaf, I would be hesitant to put words in the mouths of others, but it seems to be a theme you have. So the collective of you could in fact shed light on why they are not more popular I'd think. Or at least you and Tinitus could/should. Perhaps it could be helpful. If you make a claim please back it up with something more than anecdotal evidence. That would be helpful. Seems to me that the claim of this thread is that 'omnis are unpopular'(and it's evident that they are not popular) and there was an inquiry as to "why?". We should try to keep on it IMO as it's a good topic. As opposed to arguing what you and Tinnitus believe others believe.

I never saw that 'cannot, cannot' claim either. Apparently Graaf and Tinitis have? It's quite possible someone has made that claim once heck maybe even twice in the thread, but I certainly haven't had any overriding tone of that sort of talk. Personally I like the idea in some ways and have some objections to it as well. My best guess would be emotional investment has something to do with your collective perception of the thread, because reading and writing the posts doesn't make me feel, think, or believe that way at all. Not even close in any remote fashion. To me the 2 of you have made numerous bizarre posts that are often off topic, misconstrued replies. And I don't think either of you are too stupid to understand what's been written. Not even close. It seems you two are emotionally invested in the 'superiority of omnis'(my assertion as to your collective bizarre replies based apparent evidence you are putting forth), or my posts certainly would not provoke the responses they have. They haven't but from you two.

I've heard omnis and their virtues and vices, though not all of them in every way imaginable. And no I've never built one.

Shall we move on or word volley? I'm done to be honest.

Now to redirect in a better direction: Graaf and Tinitus, tell us why you think omnis are not more popular and support it.

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Graaf, how would you define the Omni loudspeaker? A set of minimal specs would be nice. So we can know when we are getting your goat.

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