Thiele guitar cab vs. ported guitar cab
I've been doing some research in preparation for designing my own 1x12 guitar cabinet. Part of my design goal is to do bass enhancement, and I see that there are two types of designs for guitar cab bass enhancement out in the market - thiele and ported. I understand the concept of ported cabs and cavity resonance, but what about the thiele cab? To me, it just looks like a tuned vented cab with 3 ports. I don't exactly get what makes it so special vs. a traditional ported cab.
A look inside a thiele guitar cab -
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Genz Benz ported cab -
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Inside a Bogner cube ported 1x12 -
another closeup of bogner 112 cube rear pictures from music photos on webshots
The so called "Thiele cab" is a ported cab. It was actually designed with an alignment by Don Keele, so the "Thiele" name is just marketing bull. The original plans are here:
The TL806 works with EVM12s because they were designed to be used with a ported cab. All other guitar speakers I know of are designed to be used in 'free air'. The difference is mostly in the compliance of the suspension - guitar speakers are very stiff, stiff enough to withstand the output of a highly distorted amp even if you snap the string (hifi guys - think of dropping a needle on an record with your volume control all the way up), and trying to control them with lightly compressed air isn't going to work.
This is quoted from the Celestion site:
PS: before worrying about the cab's low end, make sure your pickups aren't doubling the low notes like humbuckers do.
I want extended bass capabilities because I eventually plan on playing some 8 string guitar which will be tuned down to an E at 41Hz. I understand that it is not necessary to recreate the fundamental, but at the same time I don't want too much roll off. How much roll off is too much? I'm not sure.
Speakers I'm looking at such as the Eminence Governor have the resonant freq at 101, but list that a vented enclosure is acceptable. They give the thiele-small parameters right on their site, so it appears they want people to use them.
Eminence makes a 15" guitar speaker with the Fs at 55Hz and I think Scumback makes some 55Hz speakers as well. I guess with these I won't need to worry about porting since the speaker takes care of the low freqs already, right?
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