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View Poll Results: How do you pick your drivers?
"I won't even look at the parameters if it looks ugly/wrong" 5 11.90%
"I look at the driver will compromise if it make my life easier" 3 7.14%
"I like to have good looking speakers but the driver parameters is my main priority" 25 59.52%
"I never look at the pictures, I don't care. It's all about getting the right parameters" 9 21.43%
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Old 18th December 2010, 06:25 PM   #1
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Default How much do you take the look of the driver into account when building something?

When looking for some drivers do you look through the pictures till you find one you like the look of then look at the parameters or do you purely go on parameters? By no means do I mean compromising for sound quality but do you look for speakers with certain size enclosure requirement to suit your needs or do you just build the best?!

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Old 18th December 2010, 07:13 PM   #2
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99% of the time it is the parameters--then I look at it to see if it has any oddities when mounting.

However, sometimes (car audio) the look gives an indication of build quality. Square cones, octagon cones, lightning bolts, spirals 2,500 WATTS! written on the dust cap etc. turn me off. Stamped steel frames, plastic frames, foam surrounds, cheezy construction is also and indicator.

Ordered some of the Aurasound "Blue GT" 5.35 inch 8 ohm mid-woofers to play with. Neo magnets, rubber surrounds and all the goodies and for $12... I can ignore the blue poly cones. Since they were made for the $150,000 supercharged V-8 Ford GT supercar... the racing Ford blue color makes sense. That is why they invented grills...

I prefer my speakers to be rather plain, nothing to grab your attention and to sound clean when in operation. They can match my ugly black rubber coated 14 gauge speaker PA cables and thick RCA cables without any hint of "audio jewelry" to be had.

Pretty matters to my wife, I can't convince her that a 8 foot tall tapped horn is "pretty"
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Old 18th December 2010, 07:25 PM   #3
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Looking at the parameters of the driver is a start but you also need to look at how those parameters will work in a given speaker enclosure (if you are using one). Some drivers will suit themselves to sealed enclosures and others work better in vented. Will this driver be the only one used or will they be working with other drivers in a multi-driver configuration? So there are a lot of other things to consider before jumping in and this is one reason why many builders consider going with a proven design that has been successful for others.

Another thing to consider besides the technical parameters are a drivers reviews and evaluation by others. Zaph audio http://www.zaphaudio.com/ has tested several drivers and has a lot of very useful information available at his site. Parts Express has many of the drivers they sell reviewed by customers as well as the "Tech-Talk" forum where many ideas are presented and problems solved.

Soooooooo........... give us some ideas about what your goals are and the intended application and perhaps some here can share some ideas and suggestions for you.
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Old 18th December 2010, 08:18 PM   #4
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Good points there mate! I don't think I have the money to be doing it at the moment but I would like to put some Precision Devices PD.12SB30's into a vented enclosure I have designed to see how they sound!

It boggles me how much there is too take into account in designing audio, compared to what there is to know I know nothing! But reading is getting me there.
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Old 18th December 2010, 09:46 PM   #5
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I'm 16 and still living with parents. Having them pass the SWMBO test means they can enter the house. Must be said, I had a hard time getting a 1x12" black vinyl wrapped guitar cabinet past her.
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Old 18th December 2010, 10:12 PM   #6
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My parents were just glad I didn't want to take up skydiving or motorcycle racing. Speakers were the least of their worries. My bedroom was pretty cool when I was your age. Kept saving up my allowance and finding deals in the "Buy and Sell" (newsprint version of Craigslist from well before there was an internet )

I think now I have more interest in how it looks than I did when I was younger.
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Old 19th December 2010, 07:48 AM   #7
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I'm 16 and still living with parents. Having them pass the SWMBO test means they can enter the house. Must be said, I had a hard time getting a 1x12" black vinyl wrapped guitar cabinet past her.
I'm also 16 it's good to see others my age on here.

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My parents were just glad I didn't want to take up skydiving or motorcycle racing. Speakers were the least of their worries. My bedroom was pretty cool when I was your age. Kept saving up my allowance and finding deals in the "Buy and Sell" (newsprint version of Craigslist from well before there was an internet )

I think now I have more interest in how it looks than I did when I was younger.
So Cal using you I can kind of assume how much I can know when I'm your age!
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Old 19th December 2010, 04:09 PM   #8
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No, I think if you know as little as I do when you're my age you're gonna what happened to those years. Kinda like the old saying: "If you remember the 60's, you weren't there."

Steer clear of temptations. They may seem like the right thing at the time but they might just come back to haunt you.
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Old 19th December 2010, 05:01 PM   #9
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My parents were just glad I didn't want to take up skydiving or motorcycle racing. Speakers were the least of their worries.
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I also recently built a 6EM7 SET amplifier. It's still bare components sat on some MDF. There's over 300v sitting around on there when it's operational, so mine do get worried from time to time. I'd say it's more dangerous than speakers. Though if a speaker of yours fell on me, I don't think I'd get up again. Ever.

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I'm 16 and still living with parents. Having them pass the SWMBO test means they can enter the house. Must be said, I had a hard time getting a 1x12" black vinyl wrapped guitar cabinet past her.
Hey Chris,

When I was 15, in 1969, I had no money. My father a very stern & very strict Sicilian man, didn't believe in allowance. Instead he sat me down and said "If you want something either find a way to get it or go get a job and buy it. The choice is yours." I was quite lucky when I was 15 because back in the mid 60's people still had & used these all-in-one music consoles that had a TT, tuner and tube amp in them. Once every 3 or 4 months you could bring virtually anything out to the sidewalk for trash removal.

When those special trash days arrived I would tie a wagon to my bicycle and I'd ride around looking for these music consoles. Within 3-4 times of going out during these special trash days I had a nice integrated tube amp, a tuner and amazingly enough an Empire TT that worked perfectly well. Like Cal my parents, actually just my mom around this time as my dad moved out, was just happy I wasn't doing crazy things. That said my mom did freak-out when she came upstairs one day and saw I painted my entire bedroom black ---{yes including the ceiling}--- put my mattress on the floor and moved all my other furniture, except my stereo, into attic!

The one thing that was fairly difficult to locate were decent speakers. However I eventually ended up with a pair of EV horns that were similar to these CDP848AT Duplex Horns that sat on top of a pair of of square shaped metal outdoor enclosures that held either a 10" or 12" drivers. These were all originally were located at a local high schools football field. I ended up with them when the high school pulled them down to install better speakers. I don't know what they were going to do with them, but after 2 days of them just sitting outside on the ground near the maintenance area, they ended up in my room ---{NO I didn't take them}--- when one of my friends gave them to me for an integrated amp, TT and tuner I had lying around that I wasn't using. Back then at our age you were lucky just to have a decent little radio, no one I knew had a stereo like mine.

I think the part that kills me the most is as I grew older, at least 18 or over, started working and was finally able to buy what I thought were better, more modern, solid-state components. It took awhile to truly realise how mistaken I was and how the old tube stuff I pulled from unwanted consoles as a kid blew these solid state components out of the water! Here it is 41 years later and I'm back right where I started with a 40W/ch, integrated, SET amp and a pair of double-back-loaded horn speakers! Thanks for allowing me to reminisce. You brought back great memories...

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