JBL 2213 12" where can I get them?

[Boscoe]

I'm looking for a pair of the JBL 2213 12" woofers with the white cone, I think they look very nice and I have a nice project in mind! Also is there any info on them like parameters?

Thanks

[ZilchLab]

The ferrite-magnet 2213H version (preferred) is still available direct from JBL, $454 apiece MSRP, currently.

The T/S parameters for many JBL woofers, including vintage ones, are available here:

http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/suppor...1075&doctype=3

They are also in the databases of many available box-modeling programs....

[Boscoe]

Okay thanks, but I forgot to mention is there anywhere in the UK and I'm looking at second hand.

[badman]

$454?!??!!

JEEPERS!

I've never seen an explanation as to why they're preferred- do you know why this is the word on some streets?

[ZilchLab]

The ferrite variant?

I prefer them because I can run them closed box without fear of demagging them; in that alignment, you've gotta put some power to them for high SPL. They model a bit better, as well.

No L100s had ferrites in them, to the best of my knowledge, and they still bring respectable resale $$$ due to their vintage cachet; it's 4311B and 4312(A) is the resource for 2213H. 4310 and 4311A had alnicos....

[maxro]

What Badman and ZilchLab failed to mention is that you can regularly get the original alnico version on ebay for about a fifth of that price or less. Just search "jbl 123*", that'll find you both the 123a-1 and 123a-3 versions.

[ZilchLab]

HPM-100 woofers are ferrite, and similar in performance, being the Pioneer L-100 uber-clone.

123(-x) alnicos likely came out of L100s of indeterminate provenance.

[Nobody EVER cranked those, right...? ]

[Brett]

Not in Pomland, but Jammin Jersey often have some and will ship.

[whgeiger]

Originally Posted by Boscoe

I'm looking for a pair of the JBL 2213 12" woofers with the white cone, I think they look very nice and I have a nice project in mind! Also is there any info on them like parameters?

Thanks

Here are to parameters you requested:

Driver Parameters (TSP)

MFG JBL
MDL 2213\2213H*
EBP 48 Hz (Fs/Qes)
VAS 235 L
Qts 0.49
Qes 0.52
Qms 8.5
FS 25 Hz
Sens 90 dB SPL
Pmax 50\75 W*
Xmax 7.87 mm
Sd 0.049 m^2
Re 4.4 Ohm
L 0.6 mH
Bl 8.9 Tm
Flux 1 T

Sourcing

Why not use drivers from Precision Devices? Their products are of a quality equivalent to that of JBL, and they are located in West Yorkshire, which is a lot closer to you. There are four 12" models from which to choose. See:

Precision Devices International Limited

Also for MF drivers they make 6.5", 8" and 10" units, as well as, LF drivers in 15", 18", 21" and 24" sizes. See:

Precision Devices International Limited

Regards,
WHG

[Boscoe]

Okay nice thanks for the help folks.