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Old 28th February 2013, 10:27 AM   #881
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The NaO Note is not an MTM. The NaO II is. Neither have any "tilt" in the vertical polar response. In any event, the NaO Note has been superseeded by the Note II RS.
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Though I don't personally prefer a frontwall contribution, I believe this is a well designed speaker.
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Old 28th February 2013, 10:51 AM   #882
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Thank you john k.
Though I don't personally prefer a frontwall contribution, I believe this is a well designed speaker.
ah, finally some wise words!
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Old 28th February 2013, 10:57 AM   #883
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as to the CBT36 - a loudspeaker that needs 90 drivers per side to sound good? really?

"The Great Way is very level; but people greatly delight in tortuous paths"

and people just love to FORCE things with some pricey sophisticated weaponry and to boast about their pricey sophisticated weaponry, that's all
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Old 28th February 2013, 11:05 AM   #884
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as to the CBT36 - a loudspeaker that needs 90 drivers per side to sound good? really?
Is it a problem to have many drivers when the cost is low? The benefit is a power response that exceeds anything.
I get the feeling from this discussion, that some are more interested in defending their choices rather then being open minded.

But what for it matters, you can have less drivers too.
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Old 28th February 2013, 11:15 AM   #885
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One problem I see the design is not horisontally symmetrical which may not yield optimal results if this speaker is used in 3 speaker stereo matrix, or center speaker in HT


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Old 28th February 2013, 11:18 AM   #886
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A good center speaker is an identical speaker as the fronts. Use an acoustic transparent screen.

But some have made a laying center of CBT. I wouldn't have done it like that though.
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Old 28th February 2013, 11:23 AM   #887
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Is it a problem to have many drivers when the cost is low?
2-3 kUSD for a kit is not that high, but what about time and skill needed to complete it? these have their price too

OTOH almost 10 kUSD for a simplified CBT ie. that Selah Audio "Gamechanger" is not especially low, is it?


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The benefit is a power response that exceeds anything.
with all due respect I beg to differ


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I get the feeling from this discussion, that some are more interested in defending their choices rather then being open minded.
wow! this must be the first time someone suggests here that I am close-minded
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Old 28th February 2013, 11:45 AM   #888
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2-3 kUSD for a kit is not that high, but what about time and skill needed to complete it? these have their price too

OTOH almost 10 kUSD for a simplified CBT ie. that Selah Audio "Gamechanger" is not especially low, is it?
It's not difficult to assemble the speakers. As long as you can read english from the manual and solder you're fine. Sanding and finish is something you can get done elsewhere, if you don't want to do it yourself.

A complete finished CBT36 is expensive too, but I thought we're at a DIY forum.

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with all due respect I beg to differ
Explain how and show measurements that exceeds what I've posted.
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Old 28th February 2013, 12:03 PM   #889
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Explain how and show measurements that exceeds what I've posted.
what have You posted and where? can You please post a link to those measurements?
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Old 28th February 2013, 12:24 PM   #890
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The benefit is a power response that exceeds anything.
it's not just power response that matters - it would be too simple

what matters is the whole interaction between direct and reflected sound in room

CBT36 deals with the floor reflection and with the ceiling reflection - possibly better than a conventional mutli-driver array - very good, I like it

but it seems to me that the rest - with such a driver configuration - must be just a pure mess
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