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Old 28th October 2010, 05:26 PM   #1
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Default Suggestions for supertweeter above fullranger?

I have a pair of Tang Band 1808s that I've been playing with in open baffle. I'm using a pair of pro audio sealed 18" woofers to supply the bottom end. I'll probably just keep tweaking that 2 way setup, but I've also toyed with the idea of adding a supertweeter to go from about 12 KHz up. Many inexpensive tweeters don't go any higher than 20 KHz anyway, and the tweeters that do are either expensive or are producing mostly distortion.

So the question is, are there any tweeters you can recommend that are fairly flat and low distortion above 12 KHz and go pretty high and are fairly inexpensive?
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Old 28th October 2010, 05:44 PM   #2
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Old 28th October 2010, 05:52 PM   #3
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Default For above 12k you don't need much

I'd recommend one of the small neo tweeters from Dayton Audio at Parts Express.

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Old 28th October 2010, 05:55 PM   #4
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What sensitivity and XO are you after?

Look into the Eminence APT-80
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Old 28th October 2010, 06:11 PM   #5
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This is your best bet Eminence asd1001s.
I would use an L pad and a simple cap.
jeff at zilla uses this unit with L pad.
it is the same unit that is used in the Hawthorne Audio Silver Iris.
It sounds great.
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Old 28th October 2010, 10:20 PM   #6
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supertweeter is the best use for piezos (properly crossed over), & they're cheap
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Old 28th October 2010, 10:32 PM   #7
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I use Fountek JP3.0 ribbons from about 10k up. They are their cheapest, smallest and lightest ribbon (plain foil rather than sandwich type ribbon) which has the side effect of having the flattest and most extended FR of their range according to the data Fountek publishes.
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Old 28th October 2010, 11:36 PM   #8
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Hi,

Apex Jr. do dirt cheap $1 Audax made "supertweeters" that would do just fine.
That they are made by Audax is very important, some nasty "clones" around.
P10 is a big fan.

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Old 29th October 2010, 01:37 AM   #9
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I think most piezos aren’t at all smooth

What sensitivity and XO are you after?
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Old 29th October 2010, 01:39 AM   #10
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I cut the whizzer cone off of my Tang Band W8-1808 and now use it as a midbass in my 3-way designs. Yes, some wine was involved. As a midbass, the W8-1808 provides good efficiency and detail. I only build 3-way speakers.

The SB29RDCN-C004 is a small 94 db/watt tweeter that I use with my butchered W8-1808 on a sealed speaker crossed LR4 at 1400 Hz. I also use a DIY dipole ribbon that is 0.7" wide and 4" long, also crossed LR4 at 1400Hz, with the W8 plus two Lambda TD15 dipole woofers in an H-frame.

For your current design, the Fountek JP3.0 ribbon mentioned earliler would be a good choice for a 12K+ Hz crossover point. Ribbons add a nice level of fast, light high frequency detail. At 8K+ Hz, I favor ribbons over small domes. I would not use a horn super tweeter like the Fostex unless you had a horn tweeter.
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