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Old 11th July 2003, 03:43 PM   #11
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Default T'ain't necessarily so

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A rolloff is a rolloff is a rolloff. The cloth will still be minimum phase, so you'll get exactly the same phase behavior as rolling off the tweeter electrically.
Not necessarily. The loss in HF as you move off-axis is due to aperture effect, so it is phaseless. Thus, I wouldn't like to make any predictions about whether putting a cloth in front of a tweeter causes phase shift equivalent to an analogue electrical filter.
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EC: Yeah, throw in room effects and other off axis stuff, sure. I was thinking of a more "pure" case, right on axis. But if you measure a simple rolloff from a cloth filter (the assumption in Bill's question), it will not in any sense be "phaseless," it will be minimum phase- at that one point where you're measuring, as you imply.
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Default You're probably right

SY: I expect you're right, and that it is minimum phase, but I wonder if anybody has made the measurement? (I'd do so myself, but my new computer doesn't have the right slot for the soundcard required by my old loudspeaker measurement system.)
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Default Doing the experiment

I'll see if I can clear my wife, kid, and visiting mom away for an hour or two this weekend and give it a go.
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That's very noble of you...
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Yeah, "noble." That's what everyone I know thinks of me. Not to mention "studly."



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