Tweeters

Vivek · 4th April 2001, 05:37 AM

Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me the model numbers of some good dome tweeters in the $ 20-25 range. Partsexpress has some good deals which are tempting. Thanks for any help.

namui · 4th April 2001, 10:09 AM

Aluminum dome Vifa D25AG35 is very good (about $25) and has been used in many commercial product for a long time. I heard that the newer model based on D25 has recently been released. For that price range, I think it's the best one. Variations of Seas tweeters (25TAF-series, 19TAF-series) are also famous but personally, I find them sound not as good as the Vifa.

Vivek · 4th April 2001, 05:11 PM

Thanks. I will check it out. But if you had to name one which one will it be in your opinion. And are the Pioneer and Philips domes any good?
Cheers.

blmn · 5th April 2001, 02:01 AM

Did anybody do comparations between silk domes and metalic domes? I'm thinking about building new loudspeakers and I wanna some opinion about them.

Tks

namui · 5th April 2001, 07:09 AM

Vivek, Vifa D25AG35 is the one. I checked catalogs and found that no upgraded model has been released yet. I have no experience with Pioneer or Philips domes, but I don't think it's easy to beat the Vifa, for the price range.
However, its integration to the speaker systems is a very important factor. It takes luck to just drop the tweeter into an existing design and it will sound good.
When I say D25AG35 sounds good, I mean it sounds better then others, given that all of them have been properly applied.
Blmn, from my experience, distinguish soft and metal dome sound is quite possible. I believe I hear difference, but cannot put into words. Mostly, a metal dome is better in terms of detail and sounds rather thin compared to the soft dome. Most soft domes are relatively less detailed sound, but it sounds fresh in certain way that i can't easily explain. An analogy that I can make is metal dome sounds like metal bell and soft dome sounds more like glass bell. Not exactly so, but that's a way to explain what I feel.

blmn · 5th April 2001, 03:48 PM

Thanks Namui,

I always use hard or metal dome tweeters, but I´m very curious about soft domes.

Regards

Vivek · 5th April 2001, 06:07 PM

I am in touch with another audio freak and he says Peerless domes are a good choice as he has been using them. They may not be as good as Vifa and Scan Speak, but I understand they are good.
As far as the comparison between the soft and metal domes goes I am confused as to which one I really want.

namui · 9th April 2001, 10:28 AM

As to whether metal or soft dome, I really think it's the matter of preference. The construction and design quality of each driver affects the sound quality than the dome material. For example, Scanspeak D2905 series are excellent (arguably the best) soft dome (to me, they are clearly better than the Vifa D25 but of course, they cost about 3 times more) . My personal experience with Focal T120 (titanium dome) has been very good too. Difinitely different characteristics from Scanspeak, but when properly applied, its very difficult to say which one is better.

gimpus · 9th April 2001, 11:23 AM

I agree with namui.
I had experience both with titanium and silk dome tweeters, and I prefer the soft ones, the sound is somewhat "softer".
It is hard to explain, but IMHO the sound of titanium domes is too "sharp": very focused, but "tiring" after a while, on
the other side the silk domes are maybe a little less precise (but did anyone listen to the Dynaudio ones?), but surely more "relaxing".
As for the brands, I had good experience with Peerless, but better with Vifa which I recommend.
Morel is another good brand.
Vivek: what about JBL titanium ones?

Best regards, gimpus.

Vivek · 9th April 2001, 06:32 PM

I want to buy a couple of Vifas, but the main problem for me is the shipping. Any imported items attract almost 100% customs duty. I checked with Fed Ex. I am not very sure if I want to import them. It gives me a heartburn.

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4th April 2001, 05:37 AM	#1
Vivek diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bangalore, India	Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the model numbers of some good dome tweeters in the $ 20-25 range. Partsexpress has some good deals which are tempting. Thanks for any help.

4th April 2001, 10:09 AM	#2
namui diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000	Aluminum dome Vifa D25AG35 is very good (about $25) and has been used in many commercial product for a long time. I heard that the newer model based on D25 has recently been released. For that price range, I think it's the best one. Variations of Seas tweeters (25TAF-series, 19TAF-series) are also famous but personally, I find them sound not as good as the Vifa.

4th April 2001, 05:11 PM	#3
Vivek diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bangalore, India	Thanks. I will check it out. But if you had to name one which one will it be in your opinion. And are the Pioneer and Philips domes any good? Cheers.

5th April 2001, 02:01 AM	#4
blmn diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: .	Did anybody do comparations between silk domes and metalic domes? I'm thinking about building new loudspeakers and I wanna some opinion about them. Tks

5th April 2001, 07:09 AM	#5
namui diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000	Vivek, Vifa D25AG35 is the one. I checked catalogs and found that no upgraded model has been released yet. I have no experience with Pioneer or Philips domes, but I don't think it's easy to beat the Vifa, for the price range. However, its integration to the speaker systems is a very important factor. It takes luck to just drop the tweeter into an existing design and it will sound good. When I say D25AG35 sounds good, I mean it sounds better then others, given that all of them have been properly applied. Blmn, from my experience, distinguish soft and metal dome sound is quite possible. I believe I hear difference, but cannot put into words. Mostly, a metal dome is better in terms of detail and sounds rather thin compared to the soft dome. Most soft domes are relatively less detailed sound, but it sounds fresh in certain way that i can't easily explain. An analogy that I can make is metal dome sounds like metal bell and soft dome sounds more like glass bell. Not exactly so, but that's a way to explain what I feel.

5th April 2001, 03:48 PM	#6
blmn diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: .	Thanks Namui, I always use hard or metal dome tweeters, but I´m very curious about soft domes. Regards

5th April 2001, 06:07 PM	#7
Vivek diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bangalore, India	I am in touch with another audio freak and he says Peerless domes are a good choice as he has been using them. They may not be as good as Vifa and Scan Speak, but I understand they are good. As far as the comparison between the soft and metal domes goes I am confused as to which one I really want.

9th April 2001, 10:28 AM	#8
namui diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000	As to whether metal or soft dome, I really think it's the matter of preference. The construction and design quality of each driver affects the sound quality than the dome material. For example, Scanspeak D2905 series are excellent (arguably the best) soft dome (to me, they are clearly better than the Vifa D25 but of course, they cost about 3 times more) . My personal experience with Focal T120 (titanium dome) has been very good too. Difinitely different characteristics from Scanspeak, but when properly applied, its very difficult to say which one is better.

9th April 2001, 11:23 AM	#9
gimpus diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: North-East of Italy	I agree with namui. I had experience both with titanium and silk dome tweeters, and I prefer the soft ones, the sound is somewhat "softer". It is hard to explain, but IMHO the sound of titanium domes is too "sharp": very focused, but "tiring" after a while, on the other side the silk domes are maybe a little less precise (but did anyone listen to the Dynaudio ones?), but surely more "relaxing". As for the brands, I had good experience with Peerless, but better with Vifa which I recommend. Morel is another good brand. Vivek: what about JBL titanium ones? Best regards, gimpus.

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9th April 2001, 06:32 PM	#10
Vivek diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bangalore, India	I want to buy a couple of Vifas, but the main problem for me is the shipping. Any imported items attract almost 100% customs duty. I checked with Fed Ex. I am not very sure if I want to import them. It gives me a heartburn.