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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I have a Mini Aleph I'm using in a near-field set up for my computer. I have a few watts and want something pretty efficient under say 24" tall or so. The speakers will be about 3 feet apart with me out about 4 feet from them.
I've been reading here for months and I can follow along but I have never designed a crossover and I have no measuring equipment at all. Therefore a tried and true design someone could recommend would be ideal. I like the idea of OB but realize it's probably unrealistic in this set up. I'm looking for >92db with as much low reach as I can get. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
One of those posts where every man and his dog would have a valid opinion. 24" is too low for floor standers and pointlessly high for standmounters. > 92dB and as much bass as possible is contradictory, basically as the sensistivity drops you get more bass for the cabinet volume, given your set up optimising power versus bass excursion (goes up with sensitivity) is an issue, as is choosing a near field versus far field design. At 4 feet you do not need more than a few watts with most speakers. Any quality near field design would work : Zaph|Audio - 4" Bargain Mini If you want to go exotic get someone to model a floorstanding TL or MLTL version, for low power real bass extension counts a lot. I listen to 1/2 watt 2" USB speakers with pathetic sensitivity at around 2 feet on my computer, other than no bass they are fine for normal listening levels. /Sreten.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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This is my stereo, not just a computer. It's where I am at all day and the only space I have for a system. I happen to have 24" of space between the bottom of the monitors and the desk so 24" is an ok height.
I'd like to build the ultimate near field system. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
IMO something based on Linkwitz Labs Pluto design would make a near "ultimate" nearfield loudspeaker design, but others will disagree, YMMV. /Sreten.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Now that's interesting, I never would have thought about that one. What is it that makes you think that in particular?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Probably best to google for Linkwitz Pluto review to garner infromation. You can find info on using other amplifiers and various modifications. FWIW one aspect of speaker design is called "critical distance", the point where direct sound = reflected sound. The more directional a speaker (e.g. front horn loading) the longer this distance, the more widespread a speaker is the shorter is this distance. This distance is essentially the pointy where nearfield and farfield are the same. Consequently in my estimation (and experience with my egg shaped 2" computer speakers) the Pluto would give an experience that for more normal speakers you would have to sit further away to get the same sort of vista and image spaciality. I do not agree with all the details of the Pluto, e.g. with no sub an overdamped (the port is tuned low) vented alignment is IMO a far better compromise than simply sealed with Q=0.5. There is a lot of nice detail and radical thinking in the Pluto, at 4 feet distance I cannot imagine volume could be an issue except for very low bass, here the extra SPL capability of low tuned vented will help a lot. I suppose you could fold the bass pipe to get under your 24" height. /Sreten.
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frugal-phile(tm)
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I don't know about radical... Electrohome was doing much the same in the 60s, and the precursor for Hegeman's 70s execution was done in the 50s.
dave
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frugal-phile(tm)
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I was reminded again today by visitors how well these perform. Add a sub for adequate bottom (needs to be fairly extened to gel).
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Hi Dave,
Is that a type of Fonken? I have that same T amp and ps as well. I'm thinking I like the Aleph enough to put up with the heat. |
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frugal-phile(tm)
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uFonken yes, using FF85KeN (i've probably got the remaining supply cornered). The miniA should be a better amp.
dave
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