i have two ep2500 amps and need to get the most techno possible

treecea13713 · 28th July 2010, 08:34 PM

i have two ep2500 amplifiers and the behringer digital loudspeaker manager xover unit and an art tube preamp hooked up to my power conditioner. I really cant go bigger on the rack because of certain limitations generator wise. i was wondering if anyone could give me advise on an epic midtop and epic sub to run off what i have. I know about the under powering myth and i stay out of the clip zone religiously.

order of priorities
1) efficiency of DB per watt of design
2) i prefer american made drivers
3) clean sound reproduction on techno music

doug20 · 09:01 PM

If you want American made drivers then aespeaker.com is for you. John builds great drivers from subwoofer drivers (AV Series) to great mid range and woofer drivers (TD series).

#1 and #2 would be met with a AV15H for the subwoofer and the either a two way or 3-way with the TD series drivers.

The only thing missing would be a tweeter choice. Im not that familar with which tweeters are American made. If you went with the a compression driver and waveguide design matched with a TD12M then there are XOs in many threads on PE techtalk and HTguide.com

John @ AEspeakers.com builds amazing Pro audio designs for the same reasons you want!!

tomi · 28th July 2010, 09:00 PM

Sounds like good fun. It's mostly hi-fi bods on this site, but I'll post something to try to drum up some entusiasm!
Horns all round would be the classic solution, I suppose. If you want off-the-shelf designs you could try Bill Fitzmaurice's site - he seems to be quite well respected in this field.
Here's wishing you many happy parties with your rig!

[sorry - crossposted with previous comment]

Patrick Bateman · 29th July 2010, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by treecea13713

i have two ep2500 amplifiers and the behringer digital loudspeaker manager xover unit and an art tube preamp hooked up to my power conditioner. I really cant go bigger on the rack because of certain limitations generator wise. i was wondering if anyone could give me advise on an epic midtop and epic sub to run off what i have. I know about the under powering myth and i stay out of the clip zone religiously.

order of priorities
1) efficiency of DB per watt of design
2) i prefer american made drivers
3) clean sound reproduction on techno music

You mentioned that you're using a generator. Are you playing outside?

If so, this will radically alter what kind of setup will work the best.

doug20 · 29th July 2010, 12:49 PM

I would not alter my suggestion though

AE speakers are designed for outdoor use too.

doug20 · 29th July 2010, 02:45 PM

Here is John Janowitz's Pro stuff outdoors.

I think the horn is an 18sound horn but all those drivers are the TD series drivers. The same drivers I have in my high end 3 way designs in my HT room. They do outdoors and indoors very well, they do small or big venues.

Here is John's sound services side of the company
Elite Audio Productions

To buy the drivers go here
www.aespeakers.com

Andrew Eckhardt · 29th July 2010, 02:58 PM

If the generator were mine I'd put a Geo Metro muffler on it and build a noise shroud for it. If you don't do something similar you may as well use amps with a 50dB S/N ratio (30?).

For good American made techno subs on a more Behringer budget I'd be looking at the Peavey Low Rider 18 or 15.

28th July 2010, 08:54 PM	#2
doug20 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2009	If you want American made drivers then aespeaker.com is for you. John builds great drivers from subwoofer drivers (AV Series) to great mid range and woofer drivers (TD series). #1 and #2 would be met with a AV15H for the subwoofer and the either a two way or 3-way with the TD series drivers. The only thing missing would be a tweeter choice. Im not that familar with which tweeters are American made. If you went with the a compression driver and waveguide design matched with a TD12M then there are XOs in many threads on PE techtalk and HTguide.com John @ AEspeakers.com builds amazing Pro audio designs for the same reasons you want!! Last edited by doug20; 28th July 2010 at 09:01 PM.

28th July 2010, 09:00 PM	#3
tomi diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Aberystwyth and Manchester, depending upon term times.	Sounds like good fun. It's mostly hi-fi bods on this site, but I'll post something to try to drum up some entusiasm! Horns all round would be the classic solution, I suppose. If you want off-the-shelf designs you could try Bill Fitzmaurice's site - he seems to be quite well respected in this field. Here's wishing you many happy parties with your rig! [sorry - crossposted with previous comment] __________________ The Geek shall inherit the Earth.

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28th July 2010, 08:34 PM	#1
treecea13713 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2010	i have two ep2500 amps and need to get the most techno possible i have two ep2500 amplifiers and the behringer digital loudspeaker manager xover unit and an art tube preamp hooked up to my power conditioner. I really cant go bigger on the rack because of certain limitations generator wise. i was wondering if anyone could give me advise on an epic midtop and epic sub to run off what i have. I know about the under powering myth and i stay out of the clip zone religiously. order of priorities 1) efficiency of DB per watt of design 2) i prefer american made drivers 3) clean sound reproduction on techno music

29th July 2010, 12:49 PM	#5
doug20 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2009	I would not alter my suggestion though AE speakers are designed for outdoor use too.

29th July 2010, 02:45 PM	#6
doug20 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Here is John Janowitz's Pro stuff outdoors. I think the horn is an 18sound horn but all those drivers are the TD series drivers. The same drivers I have in my high end 3 way designs in my HT room. They do outdoors and indoors very well, they do small or big venues. Here is John's sound services side of the company Elite Audio Productions To buy the drivers go here www.aespeakers.com

29th July 2010, 02:58 PM	#7
Andrew Eckhardt diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: PA	If the generator were mine I'd put a Geo Metro muffler on it and build a noise shroud for it. If you don't do something similar you may as well use amps with a 50dB S/N ratio (30?). For good American made techno subs on a more Behringer budget I'd be looking at the Peavey Low Rider 18 or 15.