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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Probably not worth a large thread but today i accidentally
used this one up to 2Khz.... http://www.tb-speaker.com/detail/1208_03/w69-1042j.htm This is a rather cheap "no frills" subwoofer and already known in the forum. May need a little EQ due to enclosure used but: There are smaller and specialized bass-midrange units that perform worse in the midrange ... |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
Ignoring TB's response curves which tend to be far too smooth the impedance kink at 1KHz indicates some sort of problem the response curve ii not showing, but if the impedance kinks you can be sure something is there. edit : just noticed the minor kink at 300Hz. The famous Kef B139 "racetrack" had a major problem at ~ 700Hz. /Sreten. Last edited by sreten; 15th July 2010 at 10:01 PM. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Attached some quick and dirty measurements.
The suckout below 1Khz is also partly due to measurement conditions. 1st pic smoothing is 1/6 octave. 2nd pic smoothing is 1/50 octave Concerning the IR have seen worse ones from fullrangers. This is in a BR cabinet. Last edited by LineArray; 16th July 2010 at 08:09 AM. |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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I am crossing it at 2.3 Khz with "OK" result.
I guess 800 Hz can be made rather well, when finding a sufficiently widerange driver for the highs. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Resulted in a nice party box, but good at strings and voices nevertheless ...
Widerange unit used as tweeter: Monacor "SPX-20TB N" built into a stuffed tube. e.g. SPX-20TB Miniatur-HiFi-Breitbandlautsprecher, 30WMAX, 8Ohm MONACOR / IMG Stage Line günstig online bestellen Sounds rather relaxed, even at higher levels. The tweeter is driven fairly below its mechanical limits. ---------------------------------------------- Blue:Woofer with XO Red:Tweeter with XO Green: Whole Speaker, Tweeter padded down a bit compared to "Red" Last edited by LineArray; 16th July 2010 at 03:55 PM. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Crossover wiring, RL parts are resembling the drivers (roughly).
Tweeter tube should be closed at the rear with dense foam plug e.g. Tweeter tube arranged ontop of enclosure freely "B&W Nautilus style" . When integrated into baffle, tweeters crossover will have to be changed. Top: Tweeter Bottom: Bass You can cut the "Analysers" and their wires away, to get the crossover wiring. The simuation results at the right are not reality, but close enough for a start. Disclaimer: "The crossover has been fine tuned by listening, and may represent (strong) influence of the authors listening room and listening habits." Feel free to modify, according to your needs. Last edited by LineArray; 16th July 2010 at 05:36 PM. |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Need more thrust ?
Transpose crossover for 2 woofers in parallel ... I mean, 1 Woofer is 50 Euros ... Last edited by LineArray; 16th July 2010 at 05:56 PM. |
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