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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Winterswijk
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Hi music lovers,
I sold my previous speakers the fatboy read this threat.big bandpass The fatboy I was thinking about a dipole project but due the poor efficiency and my plans for a 12 Watt triode amp I decided to build a Horn project. I had a nice driver who did -3dB at 35Hz! That I had to try. Here the simulation of the horn mouth output. ![]() Here the design of the box. ![]() Pictures say more than words, here the slide. ![]() Picture the size. ![]() The goal was a two way an filter at 700Hz. I made al long way form two way to three way and back to two way. About 5 moths of modifying the XO and listen-test and MLS measurements. Now the XO at 750Hz. I had the XO scattered across the floor I was modifying and playing music at the same time. ![]() ![]() Measurements in the living room. Of one speaker. The ripple at 200Hz is caused by the back loaded horn principle at disappears on distance. On axes the SPL lifts a bit but of axes it becomes flat. Bleu line is the phase. 20-900Hz Hamming filter, 1/3 oct smoothing,42msec window. above 900Hz rectangle , 1/3smoothing, 5msec window. So this picture is paste at 900Hz to increase the accuracy of the high frequencies. A bit of a diception the horn does -3dB at 45Hz it is very good for a backloaded horn but I had aspect 35Hz. The average SPL at 1Wmtr is about 102dB/wmtr ![]() Stereo measurements at listening position ![]() Stereo measurements result on listening position with out any room treatment. The horn helps eliminating the room reflections of the high frequencies. ![]() The filter ![]() I already change it again old picture ![]() Here the end result with nature stone food. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enjoy Regards Helmuth
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Some other threats by me.
![]() big bandpass The fatboy ![]() V-fet Repair of a WEGA V4810 solid state heaven ![]() High-end 3 way dáppolito with aluminiumcone And already working on the next project. Last edited by Helmuth; 19th July 2010 at 09:56 PM. |
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The speaker looks superb and the in-room response is very desirable. Can you please tell us more about the drivers used?
Simon
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I think that 3 way would play rock music quite well!
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It was my goal to come at 35Hz with a backloaded horn it did not work out. although many would be glad the horn does 45Hz.
When I played "Kraftwerk Radio activity live Londen" I had the experience that the bas rolled towards me like a wave, so power-full. They give a live like experience. YouTube - Kraftwerk - Radioactivity I now use a set that plays down to 30Hz and has a very nice sound to it. I made the neighbors drive mad when listening to the 102dB system, with a little power they play so loud and clean i didn't notice the walls where shaking. My neighbors don't complain to fast but the horns are very loud and sound as big as they are loud. I have to compare them now only thing there so big and quit heavy that it is a problem to move them.
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Poor neighbours!!!
From what I've heard in good clubs I really like horn bass. I think it's probably a terrific solution for medium/big rooms. I think OB is the only way in a smaller room, though, personally. 102dB is incredible sensitivity!
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Yes with the 40W Vfet amp playing at 20W it would be about 115dB.
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