What you think of this all-Dayton speaker

andy2 · 10th June 2010, 05:41 AM

I am thinking of making these speakers from Humble Hifi. What do you think of these Dayton drivers?

Humble Homemade Hifi

PeteMcK · 10th June 2010, 06:19 AM

interesting idea, but look at the space he’s wasting in the crossover compartment (and under the boxes) , and a crossover that complex would make me look for a better driver that used fewer crossover parts, spend the money on the driver…
an alternative here: Zaph|Audio - ZDT3.5

Cal Weldon · 10th June 2010, 02:24 PM

Now that is quite the crossover. 21 components by my count.

Is it not sad the drivers take that kind of XO to get it right?

I wonder how long it took Mr. Gee to get that thing finished?

Did the XO cost more than the drivers?

Is there's any signal left getting to the drivers?

Whole I will always appreciate the knowledge of those in the field, one has to question this design, no?

Francec · 11th June 2010, 10:42 AM

"an alternative here: Zaph|Audio - ZDT3.5". I count 16 components.

From the web site, Tony has measurements that show very good flat response and a fairly flat impedance. What is to gripe about if the results show it is a good product?

"Is there's any signal left getting to the drivers?" Apparently there is, enough to measure.

Frank

prickears · 11th June 2010, 11:02 AM

Heybrook HB 100's, proof it doesn't have to be this way. (Google them).

I'm all for KISS, whenever possible, but that's not the same as saying 'It can't be done'.

DougL · 04:21 PM

The drivers are great. Good price, very low distortion.
I use the RS270 in my OB 3 ways. They are fabulous in my application, but I cross LR4 @ 320 Hz.

My brother used the midrange in his Phantom update to great effect.
The hidden cost of these drivers has always been extra crossover components because of the out of band resonances. It takes a good designer to use them effectively.

HTH

Doug

tinitus · 11th June 2010, 04:16 PM

Well, 8 of the components are resistors, and 3 components form the conjugate on input

Impossible to say how it works until its playing

andy2 · 11th June 2010, 04:19 PM

Do you think there may be integration issue with a 10in. woofer and a 2in mid driver? The xover point between the woofer and the mid is around 700Hz. Can the 2in. mid driver handle down to 700hz? The plot shows a flat response but it's hard to tell if they integrate very well.

DougL · 11th June 2010, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Do you think there may be integration issue with a 10in. woofer and a 2in mid driver?

That is the question. Having never heard that speaker, I can only guess. I beleive Zaph tested both drivers.

andy2 · 11th June 2010, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougL

I beleive Zaph tested both drivers.

Did he tested them together? The 2in. and 10in?

10th June 2010, 05:41 AM	#1
andy2 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles	What you think of this all-Dayton speaker I am thinking of making these speakers from Humble Hifi. What do you think of these Dayton drivers? Humble Homemade Hifi

10th June 2010, 06:19 AM	#2
PeteMcK diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sydney	interesting idea, but look at the space he’s wasting in the crossover compartment (and under the boxes) , and a crossover that complex would make me look for a better driver that used fewer crossover parts, spend the money on the driver… an alternative here: Zaph\|Audio - ZDT3.5 __________________ ‘today… there lives alongside the twentieth century the tenth or thirteenth. A hundred million people use electricity and still believe in the magic power of signs and exorcisms” Trotsky

10th June 2010, 02:24 PM	#3
Cal Weldon Speakerholic diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: British Columbia	Now that is quite the crossover. 21 components by my count. Is it not sad the drivers take that kind of XO to get it right? I wonder how long it took Mr. Gee to get that thing finished? Did the XO cost more than the drivers? Is there's any signal left getting to the drivers? Whole I will always appreciate the knowledge of those in the field, one has to question this design, no? __________________ Next stop: Margaritaville Some of Cal's stuff \| Cal Weldon Consulting

11th June 2010, 11:02 AM	#5
prickears diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hamilton, victoria	Heybrook HB 100's, proof it doesn't have to be this way. (Google them). I'm all for KISS, whenever possible, but that's not the same as saying 'It can't be done'. __________________ Making stuff 'idiot proof', Just breeds more effective idiots.

11th June 2010, 03:53 PM	#6
DougL diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Wheaton IL. Blog Entries: 25	The drivers are great. Good price, very low distortion. I use the RS270 in my OB 3 ways. They are fabulous in my application, but I cross LR4 @ 320 Hz. My brother used the midrange in his Phantom update to great effect. The hidden cost of these drivers has always been extra crossover components because of the out of band resonances. It takes a good designer to use them effectively. HTH Doug __________________ Scienta sine ars nihil est - Science without Art is nothing. (Implies the converse as well) Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus Last edited by DougL; 11th June 2010 at 04:21 PM.


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11th June 2010, 10:42 AM	#4
Francec Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Port Melbourne, Australia	"an alternative here: Zaph\|Audio - ZDT3.5". I count 16 components. From the web site, Tony has measurements that show very good flat response and a fairly flat impedance. What is to gripe about if the results show it is a good product? "Is there's any signal left getting to the drivers?" Apparently there is, enough to measure. Frank

11th June 2010, 04:16 PM	#7
tinitus diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005	Well, 8 of the components are resistors, and 3 components form the conjugate on input Impossible to say how it works until its playing

11th June 2010, 04:19 PM	#8
andy2 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles	Do you think there may be integration issue with a 10in. woofer and a 2in mid driver? The xover point between the woofer and the mid is around 700Hz. Can the 2in. mid driver handle down to 700hz? The plot shows a flat response but it's hard to tell if they integrate very well.

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