Basta! software, how good?

[turboyam]

Hey guys!. Just downloaded trial version. How good is it?.
I actually have Bassbox 6pro and X-over3 , how does it compare?.

Doesn't seem to be able to calculate 3 way x-overs?.
Does it seem to produce reliable predictions? easy to use?.
Thanks guys .

[Loren42]

BB Pro and X-Over Pro are okay for a quick model, but they have nothing to offer as far as the details. Basta! seems a little more rounded in that regard.

I did not see any limits as to the number of drivers for the crossover, so I can't say.

In the end the software is only a tool and you need to foremost have a good understanding of the design process. If you have that, the tool becomes less important. I know some people that are very knowledgeable and use BB Pro, but they understand its capabilities and limits and can work around them.

[David_Web]

I would say they are pretty accurate.
Svante knows what he is doing and also teaches it at the royal institute of technology in Sweden.

As far as I know you can sum as many speakers as you like. With baffle sim and all.
You can add links and nodes before the passive filter to account for baffle step or any other thing that might need correction.
I wonder if series filter is possible.
You can import a measured response as well.
Not sure how easy or good the paid features are but I doubt they are bad.

[Loren42]

Originally Posted by David_Web

I would say they are pretty accurate.
Svante knows what he is doing and also teaches it at the royal institute of technology in Sweden.

As far as I know you can sum as many speakers as you like. With baffle sim and all.
You can add links and nodes before the passive filter to account for baffle step or any other thing that might need correction.
I wonder if series filter is possible.
You can import a measured response as well.
Not sure how easy or good the paid features are but I doubt they are bad.

That was my take. I do know that the crossover design of X-Over Pro is limited and there is no modeling of diffraction.

[turboyam]

Oks, what other similar software that can model air susp,
vented, passive radiator and front/ back horns if possible, along with
3 or even 4 ways crossovers?.
I'm not ready for the "giant Leap" as it is a bit expensive for now.

I read books from Don Davis, David Weems, Robert Bullock and
Vance Dickason so, im not new to this but still need a simple to use
yet accurate program.

[Loren42]

Originally Posted by turboyam

Oks, what other similar software that can model air susp,
vented, passive radiator and front/ back horns if possible, along with
3 or even 4 ways crossovers?.
I'm not ready for the "giant Leap" as it is a bit expensive for now.

I read books from Don Davis, David Weems, Robert Bullock and
Vance Dickason so, im not new to this but still need a simple to use
yet accurate program.

Speak

SoundEasy

Neither is easy to learn, but the process of DIY loudspeakers isn't a cakewalk.

[CharlieLaub]

I recently purchased Basta! to do some more complicated modeling. I have to say I am impressed with the feature set and the way the results are presented is great. The interface is easy to use as well.

It is well worth the money to buy the full version.

-Charlie

[doug20]

speaker workshop is free and pretty good to use.
http://www.speakerworkshop.com/SW/Download.htm

It took me a couple of hours to get an XO simmed on it...I found it easy after reading the demo and asking a couple of questions.


Jeff Bagby has lots of great free tools including PCD XO simulation software
jbagby
It has a great following over on parts express forum.


LspCad demo is free
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x-pro 3 sucks, I have it and in my limited experience its terrible on most things from importing driver measurements to optimizing curves.

If you want to spend $$$ then it seems speaker workshop is very popular and very powerful, includes everything including impedance, T/S measurements.

[wintermute]

Originally Posted by turboyam

Oks, what other similar software that can model air susp,
vented, passive radiator and front/ back horns if possible, along with
3 or even 4 ways crossovers?.
I'm not ready for the "giant Leap" as it is a bit expensive for now.

If you don't mind a pretty steep learning curve and script based definitions then have a look at akabak (excellent dummies guide here) I've played with it and it is very powerful. Will allow you to completely simulate the entire speaker the limits are apparently your imagination. (well there are a few limitations with regards to simplifications in the modelling, but it is pretty complete in the constructs it gives you to be able to model what you want). It not only does baffle diffraction, but also room interaction as well.

Oh and best of all it is free for non comercial use

I'm currently using speaker workshop for my crossover sims.

Tony.

[turboyam]

Originally Posted by wintermute

If you don't mind a pretty steep learning curve and script based definitions then have a look at akabak (excellent dummies guide here) I've played with it and it is very powerful. Will allow you to completely simulate the entire speaker the limits are apparently your imagination. (well there are a few limitations with regards to simplifications in the modelling, but it is pretty complete in the constructs it gives you to be able to model what you want). It not only does baffle diffraction, but also room interaction as well.

Oh and best of all it is free for non comercial use

I'm currently using speaker workshop for my crossover sims.

Tony.

Thanks everybody

Tony, is Speaker Workshop better/ simpler to use then Akabak?.
Can it model a combo, front/ rear horn ?.
I'll try my hand on Akabak as it looks like a complete package!.