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tiefbassuebertr 18th February 2010 05:36 PM

Ultimate sounded Cone Tweeter Overview without Ferrofluid wanted
 
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Some weeks ago I start this thread:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi...rcf-tw116.html
and have get very good advices.

No I want to have an overview about this kind of tweeters:
so called cone tweeters

here an example - but cheap version:
Visaton - Lautsprecher und Zubehör, Loudspeakers and Accessories

The wanted overview must have only high quality versions without ferrofluid from currently production (nothing no longer available vintage versions like JBL). Except the cone tweeter from Davis (see attachement) and some vintage versions like this
JBL LE26 tweeter-
I dont find such tweeters.
The cone tweeter from this danish manufacturer sounded very fine:
http://www.horninghybrid.com/

Thank you for your advices

Davis Acoustics

planet10 18th February 2010 06:24 PM

I'd put the Mark Audio Alpair 5 and Fostex FF85K into the category of quite decent cone tweeters.

dave

tiefbassuebertr 19th February 2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by planet10 (Post 2090067)
I'd put the Mark Audio Alpair 5 and Fostex FF85K into the category of quite decent cone tweeters.
dave

Thank you for this advice. The "Alpair 5" looks similar like the loudspeakers from Ted Jordan used e. g. by the "Essence" from Konus Audio (Sakura systems/47lab)
Konus Audio Systems
Konus Audio Systems
Fostex FF85K in Japan often to find
FE83E DoubleBassRef
CLAP aka HIS ???????D88?D85 ????????????? ?FF85K?8cm

planet10 19th February 2010 07:33 PM

Yes, the Alpair 5 is a slightly enhanced version of the Jordan J6T (your 2nd picture) that Mark Fenlon developed for Jordan when he was working with Ted.

The last of your posted pictures are my modified FF85KeN. They are real stunners.

dave

ARRAY 31st March 2010 04:25 PM

Even though these are N.O.S. the Matsushita Cone Tweeter still has the performance many tweeters do not offer. It should be on your list of cone tweeters which do their job well.

tiefbassuebertr 31st March 2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ARRAY (Post 2137999)
Even though these are N.O.S. the Matsushita Cone Tweeter still has the performance many tweeters do not offer. It should be on your list of cone tweeters which do their job well.

I agree, especially if there are high quality magnet systems - thank you for this advice.
are MT225 or the Mitsubishi Alnico version still in production?

here some URLs regarded this tweeter
http://www.madisound.com/pdf/peerless/801730.pdf
McIntosh Drivers--Tweeters
*NEW* Vintage Matsushita Cone Tweeters (replaces Peerless CT62, MT-225) - The Classic Speaker Pages Discussion Forums
CarlssonPlanet.com • View topic - Peerless CT-62 Tweeter Replacements

mondogenerator 31st March 2010 07:36 PM

this tweeter from visaton looks better than the example you posted:

Visaton - Lautsprecher und Zubehör, Loudspeakers and Accessories

although i have to agree with P10, the MA 5 looks sweet and as near as i would think it is able to get to a good mid tweeter. which gives me some ideas.....hmmmm

planet10 31st March 2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mondogenerator (Post 2138219)
although i have to agree with P10, the MA 5 looks sweet and as near as i would think it is able to get to a good mid tweeter. which gives me some ideas.....hmmmm

While very good it is still not up to the FF85. With the need to redesign the A5 to meet new EuroSpec (no ferrofluid), i have challenged him to make the next gen better, and even sent him a set of uFonken to use as a reference. I'm pretty sure he can do it. What he has learned from the A7 & A12 alone should do it.

dave

tiefbassuebertr 31st March 2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mondogenerator (Post 2138219)
this tweeter from visaton looks better than the example you posted:

Visaton - Lautsprecher und Zubehör, Loudspeakers and Accessories


I don't think so. The main disadvantage is a very low Bl product (magnet construction not good) and high Qes. Expected power compression already by lower levels. If there are the right magnet, this could be a good tweeter

tiefbassuebertr 22nd September 2010 09:52 PM

still one of the best sounded dome Tweeter - RCF Vintage TW116
 
go to post 26 about
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi...ut-horn-3.html


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