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Old 4th January 2010, 07:49 PM   #1
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Default What about Monacor ku-516?

Hi diyer!


I'm very interesting in this kind of compression driver, expecially because they can go very low...


here is a link to the product:
MONACOR INTERNATIONAL:Pagina con particolari dei prodotti

here is a link to this forum where you can find some info on this driver (see also releated link):
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi...drivers-4.html

but, to you know something else about this ku-516?

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Old 6th January 2010, 06:34 PM   #2
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That's a MID CD (160-6500Hz). There are a few implementations that you can do with a Mid-CD from this and other manufacturers. One is a Visaton here (The mid-range horn with the DK 8 P 100 V/15 W horn speaker) Visaton - Lautsprecher und Zubehör, Loudspeakers and Accessories

Another one is the Selenium D250-X 1" Phenolic Horn Driver 1-3/8"-18 TPI here Parts-Express.com:*Selenium D250-X 1" Phenolic Horn Driver 1-3/8"-18 TPI | compression driver tweeter horn driver high frequency 1" exit 1" throat midrange PA driver tweeter driver selenium083108
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Old 7th January 2010, 08:38 AM   #3
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That's a MID CD (160-6500Hz). There are a few implementations that you can do with a Mid-CD from this and other manufacturers. One is a Visaton here (The mid-range horn with the DK 8 P 100 V/15 W horn speaker) Visaton - Lautsprecher und Zubehör, Loudspeakers and Accessories

Another one is the Selenium D250-X 1" Phenolic Horn Driver 1-3/8"-18 TPI here Parts-Express.com:*Selenium D250-X 1" Phenolic Horn Driver 1-3/8"-18 TPI | compression driver tweeter horn driver high frequency 1" exit 1" throat midrange PA driver tweeter driver selenium083108
from my point of view CD mids are very interesting...
I read that the ku-516 could be crossed at 300hz, i suppose 12dB/oct, but how power can handle?
I also read that must be crosse at 1200-1500hz (higher limit) in order to avoid some hardness...

Do you agree? Do you ever heard this CD?

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Old 7th January 2010, 07:16 PM   #4
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They are interesting and they are used many times in Bull Horns too.
You can look (more brands) at the (old) RCF's ("D" reference letter) D-3045 or D-5076/16Ohm (N/ND for compression Drivers) and EV-1823 EV-1824 Midrange Drivers. Like the ones from Monacor and Pyle capable of very high SPLs you can design a very powerful speaker adding a CD Tweeter or supertweeter. Compression drivers are easily damaged at low frequencies. The 1823 can go low to the 200Hz with AR/FR 150 Horn (180/8kHz) with power handl./Sine Waves of 90 watts. So in your case I would model the CD and check what it could deliver with adequate xover in conjunction, so having the resonance out of the way. Curves of measurements/complete specifications are also very helpful in this situations so that we know what to expect as is the case with good drivers for modeling.
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They are interesting and they are used many times in Bull Horns too.
You can look (more brands) at the (old) RCF's ("D" reference letter) D-3045 or D-5076/16Ohm (N/ND for compression Drivers) and EV-1823 EV-1824 Midrange Drivers. Like the ones from Monacor and Pyle capable of very high SPLs you can design a very powerful speaker adding a CD Tweeter or supertweeter. Compression drivers are easily damaged at low frequencies. The 1823 can go low to the 200Hz with AR/FR 150 Horn (180/8kHz) with power handl./Sine Waves of 90 watts. So in your case I would model the CD and check what it could deliver with adequate xover in conjunction, so having the resonance out of the way. Curves of measurements/complete specifications are also very helpful in this situations so that we know what to expect as is the case with good drivers for modeling.
thank you for the info.


I can find monacor components for a good price, so i will probably try this CD.

I would use it for PRO appliation:
- bass cabs: folded horn cabs 50-500hz
- mid CD: 500-1500hz
- high CD: 1500-20000hz

if possible i would like to increase the highest crossover frequency (1500hz) but I don't know if there are accettable hardness over 1500hz...

in order to handle enought power at 500hz i will build a 300hz horn (4phi design).

What do you think about that?
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Old 29th June 2011, 10:20 AM   #6
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Any succes with the Monacor driver?
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