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Old 18th December 2009, 07:15 PM   #1
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Hello everyone. I had a friend build me 2 nice speakers, of solid wood. But, he put cheap parts in. And not much sound comes out of them. Only the tweeter. has some sound comes out. I want to upgrade. This is what i have now, and recommendations? As far as price, I want to go mid-range to where i can say, 'well that's alittle to pricey for me'.


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*Power handling: 70 watts RMS/130 watts max *Impedance: 8 ohms *Re: 7.1 ohms *Frequency range: 80-6,000 Hz

Dayton DC25TS-8 1" Shielded Titanium Dome Tweeter
* Power handling: 50 watts RMS/75 watts max * * Impedance: 8 ohms * Frequency response: 3,000-20,000 Hz

Crossover: don't have a clue. It looks cheap, but i know its a 3 way. And from looking at all the dealer sites, nothing matches.

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Old 21st December 2009, 07:02 PM   #2
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Old 21st December 2009, 08:37 PM   #3
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You haven't given us enough info. What is the internal volume of the cabs?
'not much sound comes out' - there must be something wrong with the wiring, can you post a schematic? Do you have parameters of the drivers?
Frankly, I think with your level of knowledge you're better to use an established design, such as those on Zaph's web site.
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Old 21st December 2009, 09:00 PM   #4
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I'd be looking at Madisounds website at Vifa drivers that are high quality but not overly priced. Give us cabinet dimensions. Sounds like what you have now was just thrown together with little thought. Your not going to get much more that half decent sound with a $11.33 midrange driver and a $49.00 12" "teenager" car sub.
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Old 21st December 2009, 09:02 PM   #5
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cmon , Pete Mck , don't be too rigorous ...! I see it's an horrendous case too , but easy moves can be done . I would simplify everything as the following : run the woofer without any filter ( red is plus , black is minus etc.etc.);
extract from the crossover the capacitor (should be in value between 1-6,8 uF)that goes to the tweeter, and put it between the input and the tweeter (series connection )positive . this is the easiest crossover : it protects the tweeter from low frequencies and uses the natural roll-off of the woofer .
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Old 21st December 2009, 09:14 PM   #6
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I have done that with a 5" in 7liter closed, and a cheap cone tweeter
Nice speaker

Drivers
The Dahlquist from PE looks better, at same price as GW
And similar small Tympany looks a bargain too
And Peerless V-line
Or Vifa M13SG, theres a nice 6.5" brother too
TB W5-704D
all from same PE site as the GW woofer

Vifa 3.5" TC9FD might be a good "tweeter"

Dont try to do a 3way that way
If you want more bass, consider a sub
And if you expect it to be loud, consider something completely different

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Old 21st December 2009, 09:49 PM   #7
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Sorry, I see now you are trying to repair a 3way speaker, of which none of the drivers work
Oh dear, thats a really tough one

But if the tweeter is the only one still working, it must be a good one
If its still any good, maybe better keep that one
If its a cone tweeter, they can sound very nice, really
Could still have lightly burned voice coil, even if still playing

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Old 21st December 2009, 10:17 PM   #8
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Although not the ideal way to select a woofer, this tool from Parts Express can get you pointed in the right direction.

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Old 21st December 2009, 10:32 PM   #9
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Can you take a photo of the speaker? both the box and the crossover? that would give us a chasnce to make a reasoned guess.

One thing comes to mind; the XO components are wired the wrong way round, with a cap in front of the woofer, not a coil, I did that once.
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re:'don't be too rigorous ' - yeah, OK it is Xmas....
I guess we should try & get the existing units working if that's what the OP wants, but we need a schematic & I'm not sure he can cope with that...
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