I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[john curl]

But first, let us talk about 'Tweek'. Tweek is one form of Stabilant 22, a polycrystaline grease, (with advantages) made for various organizations, including the Canadian telephone company, back at least 30 years ago, when contacts needed protection from the air. In many cases it works to keep dissimilar metal contacts, non gold plated, from oxidizing, etc. Dennison originally learned about the stuff, gave me a bottle in 1981, then showed it to Sumiko (a marketing organization) and they took the stuff and ran with it, as Tweek I prefer Cramolin, myself, especially the original form, from Germany, which in BLUE form does much the same thing.
Back when tin solder and gold connectors were often used, Tweek could be a wonderful preventative of computer failure, for example. I wish that I could have used it with my Apple II computer from beginning.

[auplater]

But first, let us talk about 'Tweek'. Tweek is one form of Stabilant 22, a polycrystaline grease, (with advantages) made for various organizations, including the Canadian telephone company, back at least 30 years ago, when contacts needed protection from the air. In many cases it works to keep dissimilar metal contacts, non gold plated, from oxidizing, etc. Dennison originally learned about the stuff, gave me a bottle in 1981, then showed it to Sumiko (a marketing organization) and they took the stuff and ran with it, as Tweek I prefer Cramolin, myself, especially the original form, from Germany, which in BLUE form does much the same thing.
Back when tin solder and gold connectors were often used, Tweek could be a wonderful preventative of computer failure, for example. I wish that I could have used it with my Apple II computer from beginning.

Cramolin works wonders under the right conditions... have used it for many years.

John L.

[Pano]

Reminds me of the LED video walls I used to run. 100s of circuit boards, 1000s of connections. And often sitting but a few meters from the vast pacific ocean. Always trouble.
The only thing that kept them going was DeoxIT. We bought it by the case, literally.

[Netlist]

Some of the arguing posts are gone, others I've edited; something I hate to do.
I just looked and this thread is about cables. Can we agree?

/Hugo

[tnargs]

I'm pleased to see that the pro-cable-sound posters aren't having their way in this thread like they were a month or two back.

The latest thing I saw today was a press release for 'audiophile' USB cables for your outboard DAC. I think it was on the ironically titled AVguide.com website. It was a bit of a shock and reminded me how newcomers to audio really need a bit of guidance from old hands who are healthily skeptical, before the 'I can hear oxygen' cable swappers get to them, and before they make the big mistake of opening a hifi magazine expecting to read the truth.

[SY]

Originally Posted by tnargs

I'm pleased to see that the pro-cable-sound posters aren't having their way in this thread like they were a month or two back.

I hope they're gathering evidence to prove their assertions. All it takes is some listening tests without peeking. I've given several people test protocols, so if people are open-minded enough to actually challenge their own beliefs, there will be some reports of controlled subjective tests.

[planet10]

Originally Posted by SY

I've given several people test protocol

Have you posted those yet?

We are starting to engage in some more serious & valid blind-testing.

dave

[jleaman]

Originally Posted by planet10

Have you posted those yet?

We are starting to engage in some more serious & valid blind-testing.

dave

like what !

[BudP]

Does anyone with technical chops want to comment on the audio X press article in the November issue, about.......DISTORTION METER.... measuring the differences in cable behavior? I am intrigued by what Ed Simon shows concerning both cable and connector differences.

Bud

[Joachim Gerhard]

they measured directionality in digital cables at stereophile many years ago so this is no new news. it simply boils down to the question if it is audible and when how much does it count. i think with the right equipment you can measure anything down to the plank length and plank time. god is in the details but most people simply do not care about small differences.