I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[SY]

Originally Posted by Curly Woods

Read the Absolute Sound, Stereophile, IAR, etc.

No, don't. Technical terms invented by dentists, lawyers, and graphic designers are a sure sign of dementia audiophilia. I recommend penicillin b.i.d. washed down with copius amounts of alcohol.

What I think is the same fuzzy concept is what Allen Wright calls "downward dynamic range." What dynamic range has to do with wire escapes me, but there's so much absolutely unsupported hot air being blown around, my hair is getting dried out.

[cbdb]

Are you really arguing I don't recognize the sound of noise?

??? Im not arguing with you, Im just trying to figure out what black backgroun means and Curly is impling it is noise (or lack of it). Whats your definition?

in my sphere of commercial production the terms producer and engineer are interchangeable

Which you just said was very limited.

[Curly Woods]

Originally Posted by cbdb

For a salesman your kinda condecending to lay people. Is noise such a hard concept to understand (or signals getting lost in it)? And as is obvious from the past few pages your term is anything but clear, and I think thats the point!

I did not coin the phrase. It was around long before me :-) I am not sure how to make it any clearer :-)

[rdf]

Originally Posted by cbdb

??? Im not arguing with you, Im just trying to figure out what black backgroun means and Curly is impling it is noise (or lack of it). Whats your definition?

OK.

Originally Posted by rdf

My understanding of the audio sense has always been Kurt's, the effect similar to a very low threshold and very aggressive gate....

Which you just said was very limited.

Thanks, I'll let the guys in prod know they're not up to standard and will bear this in mind next time I spin the next new music release of exceptional fidelity to real musicians playing in a real space. The latter might be a while.

[cbdb]

Sorry I misread your post, thought you meant the terms they used, not the people. What do you mean comercial production?

[cbdb]

Originally Posted by rdf
My understanding of the audio sense has always been Kurt's, the effect similar to a very low threshold and very aggressive gate....

Thanks, thats clearer
Like going from 16 bit to 12 bit sampling? (losing the quiet stuff, or the fine detail(maybe not this)) Resolution?

[Salas]

Originally Posted by SY

No, don't. Technical terms invented by dentists, lawyers, and graphic designers are a sure sign of dementia audiophilia. ...but there's so much absolutely unsupported hot air being blown around, my hair is getting dried out.

[andy_c]

Originally Posted by SY

Technical terms invented by dentists, lawyers, and graphic designers are a sure sign of dementia audiophilia.

Or even worse, the misappropriation of technical terms that have actual meaning (like "noise floor") to refer to some subjective observation that's somewhere between vague and imagined.

For example, "Again, the cable's neutrality and low noise floor helped me easily focus on individual instruments whizzing through the mix". LOL!

[Panicos K]

Originally Posted by Curly Woods

before me :-) I am not sure how to make it any clearer :-)

Use some more black backround.It will become clearer

[Panicos K]

Originally Posted by andy_c

Or even worse, the misappropriation of technical terms that have actual meaning (like "noise floor") to refer to some subjective observation that's somewhere between vague and imagined.

For example, "Again, the cable's neutrality and low noise floor helped me easily focus on individual instruments whizzing through the mix". LOL!

Noise floor is a correct technical term.Black backround is a metaphorical term,not to equal "noise floor"but an effort to show how low is "noise floor" in some cases.Not correct term in absolute terms,but not difficult to understand either.The "blacker the backround",the easier to hear/identify low level information/detail,dynamic contrast.......the lower the noise floor the easier to hear/identify low level information/detail,dynamic contrast.........oops