I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[peterbrorsson]

Who cares about electrical properties, I'm impressed of the tools!

[Curly Woods]

Originally Posted by peterbrorsson

MIT's secret box...

http://www.hififorum.nu/forum/topic....earchTerms=MIT

Peter

edit: Oops, not a speaker cable...

Never thought much of MIT cables. Now I can see why

[peterbrorsson]

..one more by the same guy

http://www.hififorum.nu/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46463

[soongsc]

Originally Posted by peterbrorsson

MIT's secret box...

http://www.hififorum.nu/forum/topic....earchTerms=MIT

Peter

edit: Oops, not a speaker cable...

Just impedance compensation.

[Andre Visser]

Originally Posted by Curly Woods

Never thought much of MIT cables. Now I can see why

If they start adding sh** it can only sound sh**.

[rdf]

Originally Posted by Curly Woods

I guess we listen differently here in the US

Must be that American English. 'Out of the black' is a visual expression with a specific connotation from which presumably the audio version draws its analogy. 'Popping out of the black' and 'crystal clear air' have different meanings. My understanding of the audio sense has always been Kurt's, the effect similar to a very low threshold and very aggressive gate, and I as well consider it an effect rather than an attribute. Since it can be impressive and dramatic many appear to weight it otherwise.
Large enclosed spaces are always alive with sound, unlike an anechoic chamber. They're never 'black'. If the audio audio industry has used 'black' as 'quiet' for all these years it's the oddest analogy in my experience. If that's the case, what do reviewers call the effect I describe above?

[cbdb]

Is "black background" lack of system noise, or lack of reverb from the listening room? Either way a speaker cable wont make any difference!

[cbdb]

And in all my years in studios, Ive never heard this expression. Which makes me think its more marketing speak.

[peterbrorsson]

Originally Posted by soongsc

Just impedance compensation.

In the first link, it is looking like the box cuts off HF...? Hard to tell by the pictures.

Peter

[Curly Woods]

Originally Posted by rdf

Must be that American English. 'Out of the black' is a visual expression with a specific connotation from which presumably the audio version draws its analogy. 'Popping out of the black' and 'crystal clear air' have different meanings. My understanding of the audio sense has always been Kurt's, the effect similar to a very low threshold and very aggressive gate, and I as well consider it an effect rather than an attribute. Since it can be impressive and dramatic many appear to weight it otherwise.
Large enclosed spaces are always alive with sound, unlike an anechoic chamber. They're never 'black'. If the audio audio industry has used 'black' as 'quiet' for all these years it's the oddest analogy in my experience. If that's the case, what do reviewers call the effect I describe above?

Most reviewers used to use this term just as I described it. Never heard it used in any other form before. Maybe I hang with older audiophile types. Emerging from a black background always meant the low level details were more obvious, as the noise floor was reduced to a great degree vs other similar systems. As I stated sounds emerge from a "black background" (less noisy). Without black there would be no color example. Noise lessens the intensity of the black background, lessening the contrast. The Bybee Purifiers offer an excellent example of this. Pretty common term in audio since I started anyway back in 1980 or so. Doubt that it has changed, but I do not read the rags much anymore.

"Crystal clear" is not a term that is used very often at least I do not hear it very often. This to me means "bright and tilted" to the high end, so to draw attention to the treble region.