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Old 11th October 2009, 10:44 PM   #6311
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My XOs have zero impedance (and zero components)
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So you can't swamp everything outside the speaker box, no mushy, muddy sound then?
 
Old 11th October 2009, 10:49 PM   #6312
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Ah I think have have heard about est before.

"est bears little resemblance to Dianetics or Scientology, however. est is a hodgepodge of philosophical bits and pieces seemingly culled from the carcasses of existential philosophy, motivational psychology, Maxwell Maltz's Psycho-cybernetics, Zen Buddhism, Alan Watts, Freud, Abraham Maslow, L. Ron Hubbard, Hinduism, Dale Carnegie, Norman Vincent Peale, P. T. Barnum, and apparently anything else that Erhard's intuition told him would work in the burgeoning human potential market."

Haha I fail to see the distinction. So est is Scientology without the occult influence? Scientology seems like a bastardized form of Zen made from some old 1940s mistranslation. I think they called Zen "dhyana" back then.

Yeah, I have been in close proximity of some Scientologists when they were pushing their quack medicines on people - doctors and chiropractors to be specific. They were handing out these fake diplomas and giving speeches (I suspect that a couple of speech givers were plants) like they had just won an award. One of the common things said was basically "you can't deny it works, I mean why are so many people reporting great results?".
What has this got to do with cables?
 
Old 11th October 2009, 11:22 PM   #6313
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Hearing "it". With est you had to "Get It". Thus the connection.
 
Old 11th October 2009, 11:27 PM   #6314
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Hearing "it". With est you had to "Get It". Thus the connection.
I guess "IT" alludes me somehow. What was IT? Was this like some form of military bootcamp where people were broken down so that they could be retrained?
 
Old 11th October 2009, 11:28 PM   #6315
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No cable surely make some systems sound better, you can get the same effect with the power switch also.
Touché! But of course I should have said "very, very short cables." But my post was meant to fan the flames, that's all. If the cables are but a few cm long, do they really matter? (as long as they are not super thin)
 
Old 11th October 2009, 11:31 PM   #6316
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Curly: You don't know what "it" is until you get "it." That was one of the charms and attractions of the est process.

Famously, the person running the seminars started off by telling the room, "You're all *******s." That's the last true thing the participants would hear for the next two days.
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Old 11th October 2009, 11:36 PM   #6317
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So that brings us to hearing "it." You don't know what "it" is if you haven't heard it.
 
Old 11th October 2009, 11:41 PM   #6318
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If the cables are but a few cm long, do they really matter?
Sure, you still have the connections

Short speakers cables means longer interconnects

Well, maybe if you are listening to a bit nervous fullrange the cure could very well be long interconnects in combination with a passive "pre" or tubepre(phono?), you know, the nicely rolled off top
 
Old 11th October 2009, 11:58 PM   #6319
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Just EnABL every surface in the room, including passing felines. Then you really will get it.

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