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Old 3rd August 2009, 11:09 PM   #4981
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The one I'm using is mechanically decoupled by stripping off insulation and shield for about 6-8" from the tonearm pug. Not that this was a deliberate design choice- I did that because of the furshlugginer non-standard tonearm plug that came with my arm, which was molded onto the old (unbalanced) cable. I had to do some cutting, stripping, and swearing.

Cardas makes a plug, but it's stupid-expensive and I can't in good conscience line the pockets of a rip off artist (yes, I feel the same way about Harlan Estate).
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Old 3rd August 2009, 11:34 PM   #4982
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Old 4th August 2009, 01:04 AM   #4983
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Old 4th August 2009, 02:44 AM   #4984
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Sorry this is a gross mis-characterization, "science" never said there can't be any difference. The people claiming science on their sides are often just as casual and anecdotal as the other side.

Your comfort zone seems to be be at the extremes like the "measurement crowd" a bunch of propeller heads with meters and oscilloscopes. If submitting to some accountability for what one claims to hear is an insult to ones integrity or a waste of time because by experience it is so obvious, so be it this will never be resolved.
I must agree with all of the above.

Both sides can be guilty of the same sloppy thinking it's true. What I find interesting is how a person (no one in particular here) can become so paranoid in their own castle. I'd put it down to doubt at a sub concious level, as in 'protesting too much'.
 
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Don't know what he does, but I use shielded CAT5 for my balanced MC-to-phono connection. Works great.
No issues with microphonics?
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When literally thousands of people report to hear differences where science says there can't be any and this goes on for the better part of thirty years, does that mean there is no difference or that maybe science doesn't tell the whole picture?
There are thousands of people obducted by aliens every year. Tens of thousands that see Elvis in a local supermarket every saturday night, and perhaps millions who still don't believe we went to the Moon.

Should we be really wasting science on debunking any of those ?

When application that are far, far more demanding on signal purity (than a bragging rights of a local golden ear) don't stress over whether piece of wire is 99.99 or 99.99999999999% oxygen free, use stainless connectors instead of Japanese ancient silver over rhodium over Egyptian gold, at the same time having practically unlimited resources, I think logic is simple. And that is why science doesn't waste time convincing people like you otherwise.

Of course, you can simply join the other thousands/millions; say hi to Elvis for me
 
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How do you experience microphonie in cables? I've never encountered that problem.

The only time I thought I had that problem - the connector was not soldered on properly, so every time I touched the cable the signal deteriorated.
 
Old 4th August 2009, 05:12 AM   #4988
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Microphonics can be a big problem in some cables, but usually into high impedances. Guitar cables, mesurement cables, that sort of thing. Don't know if it applies to speaker cables.
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Guitar cables, mesurement cables, that sort of thing. Don't know if it applies to speaker cables.
I have worked in labs working on brainwave measurements with tubed amps and pre amps (it was the mid to late sixties)and we used cable runs of up to twenty feet from the cages to the equipment, and microphonie never came up as an issue.
(cages because we were measuring drug effects on cats brains)
And those were just regular shielded mike cable we used, nothing fancy.

I also run ten feet balanced from my TT's to the phono preamp, with no issues at all (RCA out to neutrik) from MC systems.

If it "might be" an issue in pro - why should it be an issue in the home. It is apparently not even an issue in studios, using regular neutrik or belden cables.
 
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It has been fairly certain for a long time already that the belief in the supersitious, the unexplainable and susceptibility to hoaxes and such has nothing to do with intelligence. Very smart, very intelligent people can easily belief in what we would call snake oil in audio. If you read these threads, it is clear that in both camps there are very smart people, as well as some less-than-very-smart people. Just like in the real world. jd
An innocuous post I would have thought, big reaction though.
 

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