I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[fredex]

Originally posted by BudP
.....Try this stuff out please. This is the reason I have posted on all of the various kinds of madness that I have explored...........Bud

A little madness seems harmless, but I fear getting hooked.

[audio-kraut]

ahh, forget about it...

[scott wurcer]

au contraire....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pataphysics

[BudP]

WOW thanks Scott

[fredex]

What has happened to "the wife, spouse, significant other, who knows nothing about HiFi", but who used to pop their head around the corner (from the kitchen) and exclaim, "what have you done to the HiFi dear, it sounds so much better?" This usually followed some minor tweak.

Are our tweaks these days just not making any difference?

[audio-kraut]

"what have you done to the HiFi dear, it sounds so much better?" This usually followed some minor tweak.

Now, no flaming please, leave the women out of this, will ya?
They only do this to please hubby, who after all would feel so guilty to have blown 1200$ on a freakin' cable...

[fredex]

audio-kraut. I was more thinking more along the lines that the wife probably never said anything of the sort, but the audiophile would claim this to prove that some tweak made a huge difference like, "if she can hear it, the difference is huge and I am not imagining it".

[Andre Visser]

Originally posted by SY
See my earlier comments about tweeters and Zobels. Without a Zobel, the tweeter inductance is ridiculously greater than anything a non-pathological cable has to offer.

Never mind SY, you clearly doesn't want to see what I'm talking about.

Originally posted by SY
The Audio Critic stuff had zero to do with the mysterious phase shifts or fanciful echoes. Simple EQ.

No it simply show that cables influence FR when used with real components, variation in FR obviously means variation in phase response also, the fancifull echoes are your mysterious issue.

[Andre Visser]

Originally posted by fredex
The often heard phrase, 'loss of information' is not the problem with reproduction IMO, it is rather the opposite, the "addition of unwanted stuff".

Mid priced electronics and cables have all the same information as Hi End electronics and cables, but there maybe stuff added in the cheaper system that obscures that information. IMHO. cheers

You lose information with every stage a signal go through, the amount may vary depending on design and component quality. "Addition of unwanted stuff" is another matter but may, or will, also cause loss of information.

Loss of information start as soon as the soundwave leave the musical instrument, and seems to me the largest loss happen between the ears.

[Magura]

Originally posted by Andre Visser

it simply show that cables influence FR when used with real component

You do the math, and then see if you can make the outcome stand out of the picture.

As I stated earlier, what happens in a worst case scenario, does disappear in the big picture, simply due to the order of magnitude.

Besides, what diminishing small influence cables may have on the FR, is in the very top end of the spectrum, where it will drown in the fact that our hearing is not up to the task.

Find something of a reasonable scale, say 0.5dB (I'm being overly optimistic here, note that), which is happening below 18KHz, then we can discuss things further.

Till then, you're in conflict with basic physics, which doesn't leave you with much.


Magura