I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[SY]

Actually, Jan, retest of the 5/5 guy is quite valid. If he scores 5/5 again, then what you really have is a ten trial test which is much more certain. In the cork tests John alluded to, we would very often retest people who got a high score just to distinguish differential sensitivity from chance.

The guy who flipped the coin 5 times heads is not a better coin flipper!

[Andre Visser]

Originally posted by stinius
Sorry but this is pure BS.

Why? Do you produce unlistenable 'hi-fi' systems or do we all hear the same?

[Panicos K]

Originally posted by janneman
Lets look at SY's example of 100 people doing 5 coin tosses each.
After the first toss, there's about 50 people with heads, 50 with tails. Those 50 with heads, after the next toss, will be roughly divided between 25 that again have heads. So now you have 25 people with 2 heads. By symmetry you also have 25 people with 2 tails.
Next toss, the 25 with 2 heads are now divided in say 12 that again have heads, so now you have 12 people with 3 heads. Two more tosses and you end up with 3 people with 5 tails and 3 with 5 heads.

So if you yourself want to get 5 tails, how often do you need to toss 5 times to be almost(!) sure to have 5 tails? Well, of course you could get lucky and get 5 tails in the first set of 5 tosses. But if you do 30 sets, you'r pretty sure (but not guaranteed) that you have a set of 5 tails.

Edit: I'm not 100% sure of this last bit. Anyone?

jd

Can I have 10 ears instead of 5 tails

[Panicos K]

Originally posted by Andre Visser


Jan, I've heard a small difference in the focus of the instruments in the soundstage, the 'direction' of the cable were taken from the direction the name were written.

My feeling about this test is that direction on that cable did not matter. I don't know whether the fact that it wasn't used for a long time have an influence though.

Usually cables that are "sensitive"to direction,might have slightly fuller bass and slightly better harmonics.This as Andre said,incrases also the soundstage a little.

[audio-kraut]

Usually cables that are "sensitive"to direction,

what does this mean? Can you elaborate how a cable could be "directional" to ac? or dc? Where do the diodes come into the cable?

[doug20]

Originally posted by Panicos K



Usually cables that are "sensitive"to direction,might have slightly fuller bass and slightly better harmonics.This as Andre said,incrases also the soundstage a little.

Boy, I can see why all the engineers and science types have left this thread

cables are "sensitive" to direction...Yikes!

[Panicos K]

Originally posted by audio-kraut


what does this mean? Can you elaborate how a cable could be "directional" to ac? or dc? Where do the diodes come into the cable?

I used the word "sensitive" because I couldn't think of any other.Some opinions I have read many years ago,said that directionality has to do partly with the "shape of the metal's crystals as metal is drawn into strands,either from solid or melt form.I don't know anything more on this

[Panicos K]

Originally posted by doug20



Boy, I can see why all the engineers and science types have left this thread

cables are "sensitive" to direction...Yikes!

Aren't you an engineer?Always rush to show "superiority"?Wait till someone has the chance to type where he has seen any information from,and then show us your graces

[audio-kraut]

I don't know anything more on this

The only ones originally claiming that a cable could be directional to a ac signal are the manufacturers, as far as I know.
I guess nothing but a marketing ploy to set themselves apart from the "crowd".

While other parameters have been measured that might influence signal transmission, I have seen no measurements that would indicate that changing direction has any effect.

[Panicos K]

Originally posted by audio-kraut


The only ones originally claiming that a cable could be directional to a ac signal are the manufacturers, as far as I know.
I guess nothing but a marketing ploy to set themselves apart from the "crowd".

While other parameters have been measured that might influence signal transmission, I have seen no measurements that would indicate that changing direction has any effect.

I haven't seen any either.It was many years ago that I've read these comments,and you could be right it might have been some manufacturer's comment.I can't remember now.