I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[Pano]

Originally posted by SY
You'll recall that I used Gort as my avatar some years back.

I do. One of my wife's favorite fiims. Then there was that other avatar....


On the subject of not liking the music - that's why we tortured people at RMAF with Cyndi Lauper. Makes a pretty good test.

[analog_sa]

Originally posted by rdf


Coupling caps: the big Russian silver micas, against everything

Interesting. Tried other micas and was never happy. Great speed but poor tone. Would you say these sound very different? What's the name?

[planet10]

Originally posted by rdf
My favourite RCA connector right now is Rat Shack: ~ ten cents each, easily melted polystyrene shell and unplated tin conductors.

Last ones i bought were 10 for $5.

dave

[Evaas]

Originally posted by tnargs
$1,000,000 (not mine) says you can't do that

I'll back you up on that

First things first. I am not the one claiming to hear the differences in cables with the same measured properties. Let the proponent offer proof. Surely you are not going to offer sighted tests as proof?

aww come on! I was looking forward to seeing some real studies. somebody post one! otherwise i may be forced to spend my rainy sunday afternoon searching the web for what ultimately amounts to useless minutia yet again I managed to kick the diyaudio habit for a few years. like any self-respecting addict, i'm back for more. this place is a time sink!

Originally posted by Panicos K
tnargs,
I agree that good hearing is goog hearing.It is just possible that some may detect some more difference than others and I don't really see where the problem is.Ifind it 100% natural.

It seems that many (including me) believe that the human brain generally cannot distinguish between a real perception of minute sound properties---some audible quality that can be measured if not now, at some point in the future with alien technology---and an imagined difference in sound. The subconscious audio processing part of the brain does its thing and sends the result to the higher-level (conscious) part of the brain without any datasheet showing how the result was determined. Obviously the bigger the sound difference between things, the easier it is for the real signal to overcome the imagined signal.

read this if you haven't seen it yet: blind man navigates obstacle course . A man blinded by a brain lesion was able to navigate an obstacle course. His eyes and visual processing part of the brain still apparently function, but the information doesn't get to his 'conscious' processing center. Yet somehow he's able to avoid obstacles. The most telling part for me was in another article on the topic, in which they reported that the man thought he was walking straight! imagine not knowing that you're walking around things! I believe it... the brain plays funny tricks.

let me be clear: I do think there are people who hear better than others, and I am not dismissing the possibility that there can be audible differences between cables. I have even perceived some differences. i'm not sure they are real differences though

Not entirely sure who wrote this
If good hearing is paranormal, tell us something normal. If those who hear differences are fould (fooled - edit) by their brain,then what are you, the chosen ones who can control your brain?

no! that's the point! i don't think i can control my brain. In fact I know it will try to fool me. As a result, I have to take my experiences with a grain of salt. As I said above, I thought I have perceived differences between some interconnects. What I take from that is maybe there are real differences and maybe it's imagined. That isn't very satisfying, is it? I don't make the rules but i do try to remember they exist. This is why people are clamoring for more evidence. I agree it's possible there may be some sound-altering properties of cables that we cannot readily measure or presently understand. ABX testing is the only way to know for sure! of course an ABX switch box would cause additional problems... but that's for another post


so i think the difference between objectivists and subjectivists amounts to how much we trust our own perceptions

Originally posted by SY

Agggh, I've been hit by friendly fire!!!!!!! Medic!!!!!!!!

lmao! thanks for that

[Evaas]

Originally posted by MJL21193



Was it installed backwards?

I'd forgotten all about that? what's up with directionality of interconnects or loudspeaker cables. any theories?

[Panicos K]

Originally posted by MJL21193



I can explain it: There isn't any difference, obvious or otherwise. You only believe you hear a difference because you equate a higher quality to the more renowned metal.
Simple, really.

Mostly prefer copper to silver

[Brett]

Very good, interesting post Evaas.

[Panicos K]

Evaas,I conclude from your last post that (briefly)you accept that there are differences,you might have heard some,but you can't say 100% sure,because you cannot trust your own perception that much.
For me it is satisfactory.And I know that if someone else trusts his own perception more than you do yours,he is not necessarily wrong or cheated by his brain.

[Andy G]

Originally posted by Evaas


ABX testing is the only way to know for sure.....

If only that were true. ! I wouldn't trust an ABX test any more than a sighted test as a reliable indicator.

[rdf]

Originally posted by analog_sa
What's the name?

Off topic on.

The SSG available on Ebay. Exceptionally low DF and presumably completely non-microphonic. I think because of the latter the SSG is better than the Russian Tef in high voltage applications, maybe not so much at low voltages. Remove the cheesy solder tabs and insert your wire of choice into the revealed tiny exit tube. Like all metal caps not referenced one end to ground I float the body to prevent leakage capacitance. $16 plus shipping from one vendor for four 0.1 uF 350 volt, barely enough to classify as proper froofroo.

My bugbear is top end. Can't stand the Russian PIOs because of it, a denuded Russian Teflon comes closest to the mica but sounds dark in my amp. The Tef also sounds almost like it has a phenomenal resolution floor that stops dead before hitting bottom, like a noise gate. Maybe the inferior DA of the mica adding 'texture'? Overall tone for me is hard to say. I thought warm until playing around on the bench with a direct coupled SE 2A3 into AKG K 701s. It has an identical sort of warm.
Literally cheap as poutine, worth the try.

Off topic off.