I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[fdegrove]

Hi,

It's not the cable, it's the people.

Cheers,

[gpapag]

It's not the cable, it's the people

Hi Frank

I think that you would you like to elaborate on this. Or not?

Regards

George

[fdegrove]

Originally posted by gpapag


Hi Frank

I think that you would you like to elaborate on this. Or not?

Regards

George

Hi,

As an ex-cable designer I shouldn't comment on what I meant as a bit of a cynical remark.
All materials (metals and plastics mostly in this case) have a sonic fingerprint even if there's no measuring gear to make it visible it's still audible to some.

Another pretty obvious phenomenon that's not readily measurable in the usual way is microphony of cables, multistrand versus single core etc.
Either way it's really amazing that this thread is still running after all those years. I said what I still feel is true about the matter so there's little point in me rehashing the whole thing again and again.

BTW, the cable in Salas' pic is one of Deltec's designs. I remember them from some audio shows in London about 20 years ago. They were not bad at all but I'm sure there's better stuff on the market nowadays.
Surely some of our British forum members must be more familiar with those cables than I am.

Cheers,

[Salas]

That cable came with a ''Little Bit'' Deltec that I bought in 1990. It was about a directivity experience I had with it, so I found it and opened it, as I have promised in page 46.

I use a Stereovox XV2 nowadays.

[gpapag]

It's not the cable, it's the people.

As an ex-cable designer I shouldn't comment on what I meant as a bit of a cynical remark.

"Other dogs bite their enemies, I bite my friends to save them"

( Diogenes of Sinope, one of the first Cynics and probably the most extreme one)

Regards

George

[fredex]

Originally posted by gpapag
....http://www.by-rutgers.nl/EMC%20audio.html
...

Hi. The article makes a sensible point, quote "....if the cables no longer act as antennas, the type of cable becomes irrelevant!....."
Of course our HiFi electronics should be built so they are un-affected by RF fields in our rooms.

[Andre Visser]

Originally posted by fredex

Hi. The article makes a sensible point, quote "....if the cables no longer act as antennas, the type of cable becomes irrelevant!....."
Of course our HiFi electronics should be built so they are un-affected by RF fields in our rooms.

I can't agree that it is RF alone that influence the sound, in that case the CS4.45, ES4.45 and MS4.45 cables should sound the same and it doesn't.

http://www.ecossecables.co.uk/Tables...frameset6.html

André

[AJinFLA]

Originally posted by fdegrove

As an ex-cable designer I shouldn't comment on what I meant as a bit of a cynical remark.
All materials (metals and plastics mostly in this case) have a sonic fingerprint even if there's no measuring gear to make it visible it's still audible to some.

So if there is no measuring gear (that you are aware of) to detect these sonic apparitions (which exist according to you), exactly what were you designing as an "ex-designer"?

Originally posted by fdegrove

Another pretty obvious phenomenon that's not readily measurable in the usual way is microphony of cables, multistrand versus single core etc.
Either way it's really amazing that this thread is still running after all those years. I said what I still feel is true about the matter so there's little point in me rehashing the whole thing again and again.

Other than a keyboard and internet connection, do you have any factual data/evidence of anything you assert? Can you share this with us please? Thanks.

p.s. "I heard this" and "I heard that" are great for ghost stories, but provide no potential for me to improve the soundwaves impinging upon my ears after emanating from my loudspeakers - in the really real world - outside of peoples minds.

cheers,

AJ

[Alan Hope]

This thread has been taking itself a bit seriously. For the antidote ... presumably most of you have seen this link - but if not, it is well worth reading through these reviews.

Denon Cable Reviews on Amazon

[chrisb]

Originally posted by Alan Hope
This thread has been taking itself a bit seriously. For the antidote ... presumably most of you have seen this link - but if not, it is well worth reading through these reviews.

Denon Cable Reviews on Amazon

my favorite snip:

Even after typing all this I'm sure there will still be non believers. What more scientific testing could possibly be done to convince you of it's technical superiority?

A sad harsh world we live in when people are giving away money to charity organizations to aid poor 3rd world countries with basic survival needs, when they could be putting their money into real world uses like dramatically increased multichannel audio sound quality for high end niche multichannel audio formats that most of the world don't even know exist.