I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[auplater]

Originally Posted by rdf

This is provisional pending further investigation and independent confirmation, but the names of neither Earl or Markus appear in Algar_emi's post, leading me to start with the working theory it wasn't about them. Input invited.

yeah... you're right! But then, it wasn't about YOU either, was it? So why are you posting! I saw nothing wrong with Earl's or Marcus's post; their just expressing their perspective....

John L

[Alan Hope]

Originally Posted by angeloitacare

i have not followed this thread, so i don't know if the video and test was mentioned already, but here it goes :

the video is in german.

The comparison is between two cables, one 2 euros per meter, the other almost 2000 euros per meter. In the labor, no measuring differences.
And blind listening tests reveal the same thing. There was no difference perceiveable.

YouTube - Galileo: Die größten Technik Irrtümer (Platz 6 bis 4)

You mean there was no difference PERCEIVED. This was a crude test on a system which did not look like it would be particularly revealing of soundstage, dynamics, etc.

Having said that, the price difference is outrageous. Yet how many of us would spend a bit more than rock-bottom for something gold-plated (not for its sonic properties but for its resistance to corrosion, and malleability - resuting in better contact area); better made (solder joints, connector locking); and at least some attempt at designing in RFI rejection?

[rdf]

Originally Posted by auplater

But then, it wasn't about YOU either, was it?

Of course it was, as it was about all with the temerity to think they might hear a cable difference. Earl's implication was 'we' have him or markus in mind when listening to music, a common straw man and one worth exposing. Again.

[soongsc]

Heh, It seems more realistic to accept the fact that whether differences can be heard depends on certain circumstances. When differences are heard, it would be more productive to find out if there are certain system configurations that make this more audible, and whether the true reason for such difference can be discovered.

[aardvarkash10]

Originally Posted by Alan Hope

You mean there was no difference PERCEIVED. This was a crude test on a system which did not look like it would be particularly revealing of soundstage, dynamics, etc?

lol - so, EXACTLY what faults are there with the system that would invalidate this test?

I guess this exemplifies the subjectivist approach - everything's performance depends on what it looks like...

[destroyer X]

and install a non defective one in place,

Carlos

[Alan Hope]

Originally Posted by aardvarkash10

lol - so, EXACTLY what faults are there with the system that would invalidate this test?

I guess this exemplifies the subjectivist approach - everything's performance depends on what it looks like...

Glad to bring a little LOL to the world!

The youtube looks like a home-theatre shop demo room. The room did not look optimised for listening - for example there were other loudspeakers present which would affect the sound.

And, hey, the listening part of the test was subjective. So if you scorn "subjectivism" how can you possibly accept this? Just read the specifications on the box - they are all you need to tell you how good your hifi components are!

[markus76]

Originally Posted by Panicos K

......and there are those who can't hear measurable differences....sighted

Hi Panicos K

Are you still working on your promise?
I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

Best, Markus

[olblueyez]

Why do people insist on using dbt'ing to make broad statements that the test could never encompass? Some can hear "it" and some cannot or will not. If you use a nice system and listen to silver cables for a few weeks ans then switch to copper and you cant hear a difference than you may want to find another hobby or just admit building is more important than the listening part.

[john curl]

Good point, olblueyez.