I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[markus76]

Originally Posted by SY

I don't think theological discussions are appropriate here.

That's why I don't understand the existence of this thread.

[Panicos K]

Originally Posted by SY

How about just dropping the whole subject of religion?

No problem.Can we all keep a fair balance though?

[markus76]

Originally Posted by Panicos K

No problem.Can we all keep a fair balance though?

Like in balanced cabling? I guess that's where most of the "cable sound" comes from. When I had to go back to unbalanced cabling all this annoying hum and hiss came back.

[Panicos K]

Originally Posted by markus76

By the way, why are "good sounding" cable always expensive?

In a more general tone,if what you mean that for the audiophile audio things must always be expensive,I don't think it is correct.Speaking of myself,my interconnects are expensive enough,my 12AX7's are quite expensive NOS,but my EL84's are either Sovtek or older low cost Russian Reflector.I have chosen all by listening to them in my system.My speaker cables on the other hand,are 12awg solid core mains cables,and I'm happy with them,after I have rejected much more expensive speaker cables.

[Panicos K]

Originally Posted by markus76

Like in balanced cabling? I guess that's where most of the "cable sound" comes from. When I had to go back to unbalanced cabling all this annoying hum and hiss came back.

No hum and hiss from my unbalanced cables,even at full volume from my turntable,my speakers are silent.Yes,I have checked the amp,it was on

[doug20]

Originally Posted by rdf

No, not one bit. I'm not going to bother hashing through all your bad arguments, ridiculous straw men and paranoid assertion I sell cables or am against DBTs. Honestly, after 20 years of that kind of emotional, irrational outburst I just can't get worked up enough to invest the time. Come back after you've actually read the thread.

When I claim a subtle preference for my inexpensive DIY solid core silver, it's an anecdote with no scientific relevance. I'm not asking for AES or IEEE acceptance, it's a simple statement of my perceptions. Far from being harmful to science, it's completely outside and irrelevant to it. You on the other hand demand acceptance of your statements as 'objective, scientific' fact - including those you invent without evidence - while discarding the most bedrock requirements of scientific process like peer reivew, based simply on the 'side' you're on. It's just not worth chasing.

Does this mean you will stop posting on the topic then ?

btw, Im not sure any cares at all about your inexpensive DIY solid core silver cables., Enjoy them and if you ever want to know the truth just do the PROPERLY CONTROLLED listening tests.

[markus76]

Originally Posted by Panicos K

No hum and hiss from my unbalanced cables

That's great but in my experience not very common.

[Robh3606]

No hum and hiss from my unbalanced cables,even at full volume from my turntable,my speakers are silent.

Mine too. Thankfully no hum/noise issues in either system.

Rob

[gedlee]

Originally Posted by SY

How about just dropping the whole subject of religion?

The discussion was not about "God", but an analogy to the situation with "faith" in ones capacity to judge sound quality with their ears. Audio in that sense is a religion and this whole thread cannot be discussed with "religious" concepts.

[Panicos K]

Originally Posted by gedlee

The discussion was not about "God", but an analogy to the situation with "faith" in ones capacity to judge sound quality with their ears. Audio in that sense is a religion and this whole thread cannot be discussed with "religious" concepts.

How many people do you know who bought their hifi going in a store with their LCR meters and measure the system?How many times have you judged a live sound by using your LCR meter?
Aren't you listening to your system?Who's getting the satisfaction,you or your meter?Have you ever measured a system and measured well but didn't like its sound?If yes,would you force yourself to own and listen to such system?