I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[cbdb]

Got me lookin. I guess I was thinkin CE, which is mandatory in Europe, UL is just a suggestion?

[davada]

Having spent 500.00 on cables wouldn't you want them to sound better?
A right mind is hard to convince otherwise. I'm glad you discovered what you did.
Expensive cables are heavily treated with anti oxidant material and therefore will outlast the radio shack speaker wire. After about 4 to five years you might notice the Radio Shack wire turning green under the insulation. But for 25.00 who cares, buy some replacements.

[dcathro]

Originally Posted by SY

Once more- the people making the claims .....

I don't see anyone making any claims.

They all left this thread ages ago, as anyone with any common sense would.

These threads never achieve anything other than comunal back slapping.

[Jakob2]

@ SY,

i´d say, you got a wrong impression regarding the discussion between doug20 and rdf.

doug20 was arguing with "hundreds of dbts" and rdf´s comment was only addressing this part of the argument and the questionable quality of dbts in cables.

I would add again, that for statistically reasons it is very unlikely that hundreds of dbts have been done.

Wishes

[SY]

i´d say, you got a wrong impression regarding the discussion between doug20 and rdf.

I wouldn't.

[SY]

Originally Posted by dcathro

I don't see anyone making any claims.

Pick up any issue of Stereophile. Or TAS. Or the websites of any of the cable peddlers. Lots of claims, easy to find. Lots of fraud. As much backup as the astrologers, creationists, free energy/ perpetual motion, and flat earthers. I.e., none, but gimmee your money.

[Jakob2]

Originally Posted by SY

I wouldn't.

I am not surprised.

Of course, finally only rdf is able to solve it, but please reread doug20´s post (#12433) and the answer to that.

Wishes

[SY]

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[Jakob2]

Originally Posted by SY

Pick up any issue of Stereophile. Or TAS. Or the websites of any of the cable peddlers. Lots of claims, easy to find. Lots of fraud. As much backup as the astrologers, creationists, free energy/ perpetual motion, and flat earthers. I.e., none, but gimmee your money.

While i see the argument in general, that is typical for marketing in nearly every part of business, especially if it is directed towards a somewhat "normal" consumer market.

All manufactures do claim a lot (explicit or implicit) in their marketing, but it is extremely rare that objective data will be delivered to back these claims up.

Any objective data normally will only be delivered if it is needed/mandatory to do business or if it helps to raise the sales figures resp. gain more success in which part ever.

Wishes

[janneman]

Originally Posted by Jakob2

[snip]Any objective data normally will only be delivered if it is needed/mandatory to do business or if it helps to raise the sales figures resp. gain more success in which part ever.

Wishes

Jakob,

Don't you think that the first cable manufacturer who can show objective data that his cables are really improving sound, would immediately corner the market? Which begs the (admittedly rhetorical) question, why don't any of them.

jd