I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[jacco vermeulen]

Ah, but Madoff needed the 1/2 share jet to hip hop to his yacht in Antibes.

Apparantly they're still having a bit of trouble with the private sale of Bernie's 88ft Italian screamer at higher than scavenger level.
One's incarceration is another's animation, as Bybees.

[thetubeguy1954]

Originally Posted by AJinFLA

Tom, I confirmed they were indeed custom FF165K, not 206ESR. I'll get the whole Engineer story again from Dave next time I see him.

Hey AJ! Concerning your friend Dave's custom Fostex FF165K driver what I was attempting to find out is, is it a "custom" driver because of Fostex releasing an improved, limited edition, version of the FF165K driver or is it a "custom" driver because of your friend Dave modifying or having it modified in some way? I'll be looking forward to your response to this after you speak with Dave.

The Fostex FE206ES-R drivers I use are also a "custom" driver because Fostex released it as an improved, limited edition, version of their FE206E driver and it is a "custom" driver because of my having it modified with Mike Rispoli's proprietary cone treatment! So it's a one of a kind!

The important thing is only whether you can hear cables on your current system drivers, not what driver is used.

Yes I agree with you completely on this point!

Are you familiarized enough yet with the new CD player? If so, maybe you can start practicing with the wire swap.

Perhaps I should explain that a large part of the reason this is taking so long is not only do I have to get used to a new CD player but, I've been trying various types of NOS 6DJ8/6922/7308/6H23 tubes from Amperex, Mullard, Siemens, Matsushita, Voskhod & Sylvania to see which tubes I sonically prefer. Each tube type and each manufactuer's tube has a unique sonic signature. Each time I tried a different tube, I had to listen to a few CDs over the course of a few days. I have finally settled on the Voskhod 6H23 Russian "rocket logo" type from the 1970s and early 1980s as being the tube I want to use in the new CD player.

Now that that's done I'll be ready to try listening to different wires. One of my friends from the Central Florida Audio Society dropped off a PC for me to repair last night. He'll be coming over Friday or Saturday to pick it up. When he does we'll do some wire swapping.

If you're not comfortable with me coming over when SY does the test, would you like me to come over prior, to hear your system and maybe assist you in practicing a bit of cable swapping under test like conditions (IOW, physically perform a few swaps with you out of the room or a curtain in front of the equipment (not speakers)?

It's not a matter of my not being comfortable with you coming over when SY does the test. What ever gave you that idea? I have very limited parking as I previously told you. Also I believe this DBT should be limited to just a few people being present in order to prevent distractions so I'd say 5 or 6 tops should attend! Maybe not even that many. I'd like SY's input on this issue. SY and I make 2 and I'd like Roger Russell to participate "if" possible so that makes 3.

I cannot tell you how many members of Central Florida Audio Society, Space Coast Florida Audio Society & SETriodes group want to attend this event too! So it's not that I don't want you to attend the DBT it's simply a matter of deciding who the remaining 1-3 people should be. I'd like a balance of proponents and opponents of the wire issue to attend. Most likely, although it's not set in stone, you'd have to come a little before or after ---{that will be your choice if you're not selectd to be one of the last 1-3 positions left}

Thetubeguy1954

~Rational Subjectivism. It's An Acquired Taste!~

[SY]

I would need one other person to do the switching (not a fun job, he can't have any contact with any of us during the test but could certainly join us for drinks and a post-mortem afterward), but beyond that, it's up to you- whatever makes you the most comfortable and confident.

[keyser]

Originally Posted by SY

I would need one other person to do the switching (not a fun job, he can't have any contact with any of us during the test but could certainly join us for drinks and a post-mortem afterward), but beyond that, it's up to you- whatever makes you the most comfortable and confident.

I've been away from diyaudio.com for a couple of years. It's good to see you're still fighting snake-oil! I've given up; there seems to be progress, but it's too slow for me.

Thumps up for you though!

[john curl]

Pausim, you have it right. When working at the edge of knowledge of a subject, areas not described in normal textbooks of the subject, or in many practical applications, it is not possible to 'prove' everything that you find 'works' to the satisfaction of everyone.
While today, over 150 years later, Dr. Semmelweis is appreciated for his discovery, it was NOT true at the time, EVEN with the evidence that he had gathered.
It is the same in audio, today. To be really successful, or at least ahead of the pack that includes companies with resources far beyond what we can ever have, we have to keep our eyes open for both practical improvements, that might first appear as only 'accidents' and yet apply every new idea proposed by others, and even older ideas not usually associated with audio. Quantum physics is one of those areas that is often useful for understanding how to make better audio equipment. It is NOT my area of expertise. However, I find that using a concept derived from what I can understand and use of it, gives enough intellectual framework to go along with it.

[scott wurcer]

Originally Posted by john curl

Quantum physics is one of those areas that is often useful for understanding how to make better audio equipment.

Do you really believe that?

[marce]

It would be nice to have some real discussions on cables, differing constructions, materials etc and how these change the well known and well documented variables that effect signal transmission, (mainly L C R G, and dielectric effects), and also their effectiveness or lack of in regards to EMC, also how they might interact with varying input and output impedances of the connected equipement.

It would also be of benefit to ourselves and others to prove or disprove some of the more eclectic myths regarding signal transmission in cables at Audio frequencies such as Skin Effect, micro diodes (ha!), directionality of copper with ac signals(with reference to signal transmission, not the end at which the shield is connected). We are dealing with wavelengths of approx 15,000,000m to 15,000m with relatively slow rise times so there shouldn’t be the same problems as high speed digital suffers with reflections, ringing etc over what is a short run of cable compared to the wavelength (i.e. not really transmission lines as defined today for high speed design)

[john curl]

Scott, why would I NOT believe it? What have you done lately, to help audio get more refined? Hanging out with analog designers of similar feelings on the subject? '-)

[janneman]

Originally Posted by john curl

Scott, why would I NOT believe it? What have you done lately, to help audio get more refined? Hanging out with analog designers of similar feelings on the subject? '-)

Yeah Scott,

You might have designed some amps that found their way into audio products by the 100k's, but what have you REALLY done ?

jd

[scott wurcer]

Originally Posted by john curl

Scott, why would I NOT believe it? What have you done lately, to help audio get more refined? Hanging out with analog designers of similar feelings on the subject? '-)

No, actually the guy's from ESS insisted that the difference in DAC's is "black and white" (as if I haven't heard that before). I will take them up on a personal demo. Kirkwood promised me some PFET samples too.