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Old 24th January 2010, 12:56 PM   #11291
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What is your approach in your room (given the small, cone 'n dome, vertically on the face of a resonating box approach of your speakers) to address post source acoustics? Wires?

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Perhaps it would be better if you take a more careful "look" at my speaker's "resonating box approach".I am working on my room treatment though.If results are good I'll post some details.My speaker's "resonating box approach" however,seems to have made things a lot more easier for my room......for some reason.Do you think it might be their resonances?
 
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Old 24th January 2010, 01:13 PM   #11293
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We are all subject to it, not immune. However, some of us are aware and accept this fact, whereas others......

Btw, to address your earlier post (gone?)

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Old 24th January 2010, 01:25 PM   #11294
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Perhaps it would be better if you take a more careful "look" at my speaker's "resonating box approach".
I did
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You are posting on a speaker building forum and don't know what this means?
You don't know what a (reflex) port is for?

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I am working on my room treatment though.If results are good I'll post some details.
So you are going to measure, or will this be the grope around and "listen" thing?
Wouldn't it be better to solve the issue at the source, rather than apply bandaids? You have Toole's book and what has been found via listening tests about absorption and (killing) spaciousness?
Wires play no role in your passive countermeasures?

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My speaker's "resonating box approach" however,seems to have made things a lot more easier for my room......for some reason.Do you think it might be their resonances?
Having measured (and listened to) many box speakers with rear resonating ports in real rooms....Doubtful .

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Old 24th January 2010, 01:35 PM   #11295
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Having measured (and listened to) many box speakers with rear resonating ports in real rooms....Doubtful .

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Have you measured their cabinet panel resonances?What is your opinion on their influence on final sound?Would you treat your room with a badly resonant speaker?At least the one I'm using has kept these cabinet resonances to a minimum.As for your question about reflex ports......no,I don't know
About room treatment,I have the "luxury" to borrow some and try them.I will surely choose(if I choose) the ones which will make final sound better to my ears because after I finish,I will be listening to my system,not measuring it.......Good guess I hope my illusions are good once more.

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Old 24th January 2010, 01:50 PM   #11296
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Have you measured their cabinet panel resonances?
As for your question about reflex ports......no,I don't know
When you figure out the latter, you will then understand it was not referencing the former.
So you don't use wires for acoustic issues?

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About room treatment,I have the "luxury" to borrow some and try them.I will surely choose(if I choose) the ones which will make final sound better to my ears because after I finish,I will be listening to my system,not measuring it.......Good guess I hope my illusions are good once more.
So you hope killing spaciousness and increasing non-linearity of the reverberant field will make final sound better to your ears.
As long as the treatments are expensive enough (not "cheap"), I'm guessing somehow, there will be an improvement. Good luck .
If not, the next leap in wires (price included) is just around the corner
 
Old 24th January 2010, 01:53 PM   #11297
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That this topic got so explosive makes me speechless. I will not desturb you with my subjective findings any more. I will watch this tread and when i can contribute something that is resonable i may enter the discussion again. It got a one way road because the majority has already decided that cables of resonable contruction are good enough so what is the point to further elaborate ?
 
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When you figure out the latter, you will then understand it was not referencing the former.
So you don't use wires for acoustic issuees?



So you hope killing spaciousness and increasing non-linearity of the reverberant field will make final sound better to your ears.
As long as the treatments are expensive enough (not "cheap"), I'm guessing somehow, there will be an improvement. Good luck .
If not, the next leap in wires (price included) is just around the corner
I always choose wires for acoustic issues,but not for altering FR if this is what you mean

About room treatments,that is why I said about the "luxury" to try them first.Don't worry about prices either.I may have some more "luxuries" to deal with them too.DIY'ing is one of them,so,don't get me wrong

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Old 24th January 2010, 02:11 PM   #11299
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So you hope killing spaciousness and increasing non-linearity of the reverberant field will make final sound better to your ears.
I do not have hopes for anything.My hearing tells me what I like to hear the same way as my taste tells me what I like to eat.I don't have any "references" that I follow.When I do things for pleasure,these things have to please me.Nothing more,nothing less.
 
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When you figure out the latter, you will then understand it was not referencing the former.
I know it wasn't,I was refering to the formerAren't those cabinet resonances part of the whole problem?
 

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