I don't believe cables make a difference, any input?

[scott wurcer]

Originally Posted by fdegrove

Hi,



I think wire really needs to be drawn in a very odd way to make it even remotely directional.
If cable were that directional just hooking up some to both channels randomly could mess up the stereo image. Does it?

Frankly, I just think that's one of those audio myths
Just my opinion though.


Cheers,

Hi Frank,

I was thinking of picking a brand that was already claimed to be "obviously" directional. Sort of one where the participant has already verified in their own mind that it is indeed directional. I think they are all audio myths myself.

[auplater]

Originally Posted by SY

Evidence?

Curl's rejection of DBT's outright could probably be classified as an alpha error in and of itself...

[john curl]

No, I tried it. I have more experience than you appear to have.

[scott wurcer]

Originally Posted by john curl

No, I tried it. I have more experience than you appear to have.

So John,

I'll cut ten cables from a spool and randomize the directions, you can have them as long as you want and listen to them in the comfort of your own system. Nope, too much to lose.

[john curl]

Stick it, Scott. You know my position on this. AND how would I know that these cables are typically directional?

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Scott,

Not sure what JC replied to. I guess it's about that DBT test though.

To me, wire directionality is something that could be caused by the way the bare wire is drawn/or pushed through the die.
The effect, if any, could or could not be audible but I've never met anyone able to point to a wire connected backwards and asking for it to be reversed. Never.
I think the effect of just unplugging and replugging a cable into a system is greater than the assumed audibility of a preferred direction.

Furthermore I think lots of people confuse directionality of wire (as in bare wire) with the preferred direction of a shielded piece of cable.

I do recall some cable manufacturers (one that have a vested interest) claiming their goods to be directional, wire and finished cable) due to the way it was made.
I still have some of that cable and I can't say I hear any difference either way.
I don't think it sounded al that great either no matter how expensive it was.

BTW, don't know if you remember Steve Eddy's directionality contest but I particpated in it.
Those were just a couple of inches of enemalled, or was it Kapton, insulated wires of what seemed to be above average quality. Phelps-Dodge sourced, I guess.

Anyways, I wouldn't waste too much time on it.


Cheers,

[SY]

Originally Posted by john curl

Stick it, Scott. You know my position on this.

Yes, running and hiding as soon as it's time to put up.

I think the effect of just unplugging and replugging a cable into a system is greater than the assumed audibility of a preferred direction.

Sensible!

[SY]

Originally Posted by fredex

I'd be happy with that. And it raises a good point about the burnt not-burnt test, because Andre can hear both effects, if a burnt not-burnt test is done, the cables supplied would have to be marked for directionality.

We tried this a few years ago. The assertive fellow who called the rationalists deaf, closed-minded, and insensitive disappeared as soon as the test was ready to begin. Sic transit gloria Mr. Feedback.

[scott wurcer]

Originally Posted by john curl

Stick it, Scott. You know my position on this. AND how would I know that these cables are typically directional?

John you always claim the wire you use is directional, so let it be bear's silver wire. You choose the wire.

[fredex]

@ SY. All this makes me wish I had the opportunity to take your test when I was convinced that I could hear cable sound with my eyes closed. I would have passed your DBT with ease absolutely no doubt about it.