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Crossover DCR issue
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Old 25th November 2009, 09:07 AM   #1
zaffle is offline zaffle  United Kingdom
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I have recently finished building a 3 way sealed box Hi Fi speaker, It sounds great.

Acoustically it measures ok,
Impedance measurements are ok (min 3.8 ohms).
Crossover is 2nd order throughout @ 480Hz and 4.2Khz
Box volume is 120 Litres
2 x 6.5 inch LF drivers (8 ohms each wired in parallel)
1 x 4" MF driver (8 Ohms)
1 x 3.4" HF driver (8 Ohms)

However when I try to take a DC Resistance reading the digital multimeter won't settle on a value. It ranges from 1 Ohm to 7 Ohms up and then back down again and carries on in this manner. Normally I would expect it to read around 4 ohms and does so on all other speakers with roughly the same impedance. Any ideas?

For the record I am aware of the difference between Impedance and DCR but I have never come across this one before. Any ideas why?

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Old 25th November 2009, 10:05 AM   #2
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Crossover DCR issue
maybe you could post the crossover topology... it sounds like you are getting some sort of effect from the caps in the crossover charging/discharging perhaps....

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Old 25th November 2009, 01:37 PM   #3
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Most DMM's take their DCR reading @ 1Khz.
Have you tried feeding a 1 kHz signal to the speaker to hear how it responds and also hook up your DMM on ACV to see what it's doing.
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Old 25th November 2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by skeptic43 View Post
Most DMM's take their DCR reading @ 1Khz.
Well, that would be a problem with the meter design. Measuring impedance at any frequency other than 0 would not give you DCR. As far as I know, every DMM measures resistance with DC.

Sounds to me like the problem is the autorange function of the meter, if it has one. Flukes are famous for bouncing around in their reading until you force the meter to manual range mode. If your meter is not autoranging, then you may have to use a battery with a current limiting resistor to force a DC current through the coil, and measure DC millivolt drop across the coil to get a good resistance meaasurement.
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Old 25th November 2009, 01:46 PM   #5
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Thanks Tony,

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Old 25th November 2009, 02:06 PM   #6
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This is quite common. Remember that the speaker is a microphone. WHen you measure DCR then you are only seeing the woofer. Now if there is any source of noise or vibration in the room, then the woofer will pick this up and feed it back into the DMM as a voltage. Depending on the internal impedance of he DMM this can cause very large swings in an impedance measurement. A cheap DMM will NOT reject this signal, while a better one will. A DMM is not a good way to measure DCR for this very reason.
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