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Old 9th November 2009, 10:22 PM   #191
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The shape and size depends on the frequencies you need to control...
Is that all MDF?

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Old 9th November 2009, 10:26 PM   #192
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Wow, all felt!
 
Old 9th November 2009, 10:48 PM   #194
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Stealthy. Very cool idea.
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Old 10th November 2009, 01:00 AM   #195
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Stealthy. Very cool idea.
I think you mean Stealthbomberesque.

Okay I am starting to see what you mean now 45. But is all that really necessary with drivers that have decent self damping properties and an amp with a decent damping factor?
 
Old 10th November 2009, 03:09 AM   #196
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About Lorenzo Russo I can ask for some of his articles, published in Italian reviews over the years.

In the meantime....

Hmm, well I would like a pair but I suspect my totem beaks will slide right off of them...
 
Old 10th November 2009, 03:39 AM   #197
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Default I have a radical thought to share...

Individual perceptions are incommensurable with an objective standard except in the abstract referential realm of language and subjective expression.

Although I realize this is an axiom drawn from evolutionary biology and structural neuro-linguistics and therefore truly beyond the scope of simple audio analysis, it is none the less true.

Like quantum-mechanics, the metrics of perception are driven by probabilistic processes as opposed to absolute ones. As Einstein asserted, there is no preferred frame, meaning that there is no one absolute position from which to report experience.

Google it if you have a year or two.

The incessant argument over testing methodologies ignores and belies the fundamental truth that music is interpreted "semiotically," that is, in a symbolic or meta-referential way further abstracted by the "intentionality" of the listener.

As a designer, once you have achieved the base-line of accuracy defined by the accepted canon of objective acoustic, electrical and electronic physics, to talk of properties beyond the measurable peoperties of the device is bunk.

What isn't bunk is whether the subjective experience of the listener is worth while to them. Will they blow time just listening to your gear as opposed to paying bills or watching hockey?

Soon you will be dead, and so will your listener - so, what's important?

The subjective experience.

Tune it until they like it - [edit] - whatever it takes!

Regards,
Tom

PS. Very cool stuff by the way!

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Old 10th November 2009, 04:02 AM   #198
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It's natural felt!
That puts their apperance in a completely different light... makes me think of the army snippers disguised in grass & branches... they become "invisible", much like you are trying to make your loudspeaker. I think it a good idea. Cool.

Next: What drivers & XO points?

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Old 10th November 2009, 05:10 AM   #199
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Soon you will be dead, and so will your listener - so, what's important?
Just in case you hadn't noticed - this is DIYaudio. The listener is the designer, except for the cases where people are selling stuff. Such people are in their own marketing world of trying to convince others that they are the chosen gurus.

As to "what has happened to DIYaudio", it's become overrun by cranks without even a rudimentary capacity for critical thinking, yet having some irresistible urge to spew their fallacy-riddled philosophy at people who actually know what's going on.
 
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Default Ouch! I surely didn't mean to preach or offend...

I meant to point up the impossibility of satisfying everyone with a single approach.

I have nothing to sell and have been an amateur designer for about five years and and member of this board for three or so.

Of what little I do know, much of it I learned here from the generous folk who populate this board - to whom I owe much thanks.

So, please accept my apologies for posting, and even after all this time I don't think I'll do it again.

G'nite and thanks.

Tom

[edit] I'm kinda bummed you chowed on me. I meant no harm and hurt no-one. No matter what you felt I didn't deserve such a mean-spirited response.

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