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Old 4th November 2009, 09:36 PM   #1
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Hello!

I am a new member and I hope to get some new ideas for the following question. The idea is to build a TL box with some speakers from an older Kef CS7 (B139B, B110B, T33A).
I investigated a little bit and found 4 possibilities. Has anybody an idea about the strengths and weaknesses of these possibilities?

http://homepage.mac.com/planet10/IMF_TLS80_brochure.pdf
http://homepage.mac.com/planet10/TLS...s/Pro9TL-1.pdf
http://homepage.mac.com/planet10/TLS...Pro9TL-Mk2.pdf
http://www.exdreamnet.de/bauplaene/tml/bailey_tml.jpg


26 years ago I already built the last one (the Bailey) and the result didn’t convince me. However, it could be that the dampening wasn’t perfect. At least I think that this could have had a negative impact.
Of course I am aware that some of these possibilities have other midranges and tweeters. But I want to focus on the bass first and optimize the rest with an active crossover for proper results.

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Old 4th November 2009, 09:49 PM   #2
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You've been to TLS.org. but you missed the best TL for the B139.

same TL, 3 variations on the theme.
Transmission Line Speakers

A buddy built these with really good results:

Click the image to open in full size.

He did have to shorten them a couple inches to fit into his apartment with 8' ceilings.

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Old 5th November 2009, 06:58 PM   #3
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Nice proposal Somewhat big, I will think about it.

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Old 5th November 2009, 08:11 PM   #4
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That is for a pair of B139. The singles are really no bigger than a set of IMF refs or the Baileys. The others you mention are really too small to be considered anything but over complex aperiodic boxes.

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Old 9th November 2009, 06:42 PM   #5
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Hi Dave,

do you have the still the original plan for the Pro9 TL MKII?
In this plan some information is missing (Fig. 3 and Fig. 10)
Especially Fig. 10 should show some important measurements.

http://homepage.mac.com/planet10/TLS...Pro9TL-Mk2.pdf

Thank you for any help.

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Old 9th November 2009, 06:46 PM   #6
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Frank,

I never had the original article, only the reprint from Falcon, all of which is in that pdf.

This is not the box i'd build for B139 BTW.

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Old 9th November 2009, 07:23 PM   #7
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I havn't decided yet, just tried to compare the length of the different lines.
I don't understand why the bass oft the MKII should be so much better that the MKI. Some user posted that.
I understand that you would prefer the Bailey's - although the B110 is in the open line?

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I wouldn't build the triangular Baily line (certainly not as is). When i refer to the Bailey line, i refer to the original, upon which the Radfords, IMFs, and TDLs were based.

As to the Pro9TL, my understanding is that the bass was much the same, the big difference due to avialbility of better mid & tweeter.

I myself would not consider any of the classic designs, i'd be much more comfortable going ahead with the one Scott specified using modern modelers.

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