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Old 16th February 2010, 03:54 AM   #21
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think what Martin King find so magical about these speakers is due to their high ( IMHO unacceptable) 2nd order harmonic distortion.
I'm gonna guess you don't know who Martin is.

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Old 16th February 2010, 05:32 AM   #22
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Did you do this blind. As in before you saw the distrotion curves?

Geddes studies have shown the distortion needs to reach some serious levels before it is audible.

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Its good that you asked. It does not take golden ears to tell the difference between even order and odd order HD or the absence of them . I believe every one can do it with a little experience and training. You just have learn their effect on the sound. I actually try to predict the HD levels of speakers before testing them and I'm right most of the times. Except for high-end drivers with very low HD. For those I have no clue!

I think some people enjoy certain types of HD in their systems. I think it is a matter of personal preference and the type of music one listens to.

A while back, I actually did some experiments where I added different levels of odd order and even order HD to a song using Matlab to see their effect. They actually confirmed my previous perception of the effect of HD. I can send you the music files if I find them.

I also noticed on your website that you live close by. I should drop by to give a listen to your speakers!
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You should come over for VI diyFEST this summer.

An aside to the distortion thing is that the amp + speaker can have less measured distortion than either separtely. One of our (dutch?) members has shown this.

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I was always searching for such an event in Vancouver area but never found one! I would love to attend!

I also think it is possible for the amp + speaker combination to have a lower HD than each one alone. Since HD is a result of non-linearity in the transfer function of systems, I think it is possible that the non-linearities in the transfer functions of a certain amp and a certain speaker to cancel out to give a more linear transfer function for the whole system.

I was actually thinking on a DSP system just for the purpose of non-linearity compensation, then I searched the internet and found out I'm not the first person to think of it...damn!
AES E-Library: Simplified Loudspeaker Distortion Compensation by DSP
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Old 16th February 2010, 09:10 PM   #25
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There is also this patent!
Method and apparatus for compensating for nonlinear distortion of speaker system - US Patent 7359519 Description
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